[Sirken]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's my question Ambro, according to Sirken, wouldn't an unguilded FTE tagger mean that no guild can engage the mob until it resets? If a player is unguilded then no guild has the right to that player's FTE other than that player. This is according to what Sirken said... so neither TMO, nor IB/Taken could have attempted Fay on that pull since Golden won it.
If we say "oh we all know Golden is really TMO" how does that consistently hold water on a Sev FFA when all 9 or so raiding guilds have an unguilded player there. How can we possibly keep everyone straight? You might say "Well you know who YOU have there." But Class R is encouraging one another to form alliances now and as trackers rotate and unguilded taggers from allied guilds go in and out it is going to be impossible to manage.

Hitpoint answers your question perfectly here,

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It means TMO would have killed it for Golden. Grats Golden on his loot, which he will promptly give to TMO since he's a member. Instead IB killed Goldens mob, and kept the loot for themselves. It still hasn't been returned.

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sucks raid mobs can be claimed by singular entities who have no raid force in zone ( not talking about Golden/Fay)... doesnt really feel right/classic at all. but i guess not much else you can do with there being so many varieties of raid disputes possible, have to just look at the FTE message above all else.

this is the way things have been since FTE messages went in and FTE was king. none of this is new. and a lot of this is the reason i shit so hard on the class r guilds when the raid changes were happening, because if they made literally any effort, they could get mobs, by snagging fte and letting u all kill the mob for them. if you dont have FTE, its not your mob, period.