Since I've gotten a few PMs on it ... to clarify ... I didn't mean any offense towards TMO / IB. The rules that were broken but allowed applied to only Class C / VP. So Class R doesn't care AT ALL what they do in VP or any agreements they make with each other. I personally think it's great that TMO agreed to lift the ban on IB when they easily could have gone with the GMs and had open season all Class C mobs for a couple weeks.
The thread I'm referring to is:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=142673
What I'm asking for here in this thread about Lockouts is an OK, since it is a written rule. No one wants to get banned.
Am I asking to remove the rule? Absolutely not. This is a great rule in place to protect Class R guilds from being kept out of the raiding scene. It's not an issue today, but might be in the future.
What I'm asking is... if the guilds in Class R can agree to a different interpretation of the 'lockout rule', will the GMs be OK with that?
It SOUNDS like Derubael's previous post on that thread makes it acceptable.. but again.. just want to be sure ... no one wants to get banned.
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Originally Posted by Derubael
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We are moving to a system where raid disputes are player adjudicated and resolved. If there is a dispute involving two or more parties in which a rule has been broken, bringing that dispute to the GM's is a last resort, after all other options have been explored. We greatly encourage players involved in disputes to work with each other to find their own solutions to situations that arise during raids, and reaching a compromise that will almost always be preferable to GM intervention. Obviously this is not a new notion by any means - but from here on out it will be the regular procedure for handling a dispute, as opposed to the exception.
In the past, the go-to solution for a raid dispute was to put in a petition and let the staff decide what to do. We feel there are few, if any, situations that cannot be resolved through cooperation and compromise. If a dispute needs to be brought to a GM, it is very likely both sides will walk away unhappy with the result. It is therefore in all parties best interest to work together to come to their own resolution.
This change will largely affect Class C guilds, as Class R guilds have their own prearranged agreement as to how Class R spawns should be handled that is conducive to an environment that produces fewer disputes. This system, however, is not class exclusive, and if one or more groups are involved in a dispute, we expect the situation to be handled in a similar fashion regardless of class affiliation.
From this point forward we expect players to exhaust every possible option to reach an agreement during a dispute before involving the staff. We do not believe this to be an unreasonable request, as everyone here has the knowledge, capacity, and understanding to be able to work out these problems on their own.
We are confident this will provide less staff intervention, more cooperation between competing guilds, and an overall better raid scene for everyone. We look forward to an exciting and fun year of raiding across Antonica, Kunark, and Velious!
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