[Kekephee]

I think an important question to ask is, why is one guild helping another? If you have a guild that isn't capable of killing a mob, and so recruits help from a more capable guild, or if you have a guild that is capable of killing the mob and just for fun brings along someone who's in a different guild, those seem to me to be two very different things. I don't think that affects lockout at all, but imo it's a pretty important distinction to make.

One option- a capable guild helping a less capable guild- involves goodwill and, ultimately, the more capable guild giving up a chance at loot to help another guild out. No matter how you slice it- whether you look at it from the angle of, if <Not So Great> gets the loot from Master Yael, then <Super Stars> doesn't, so <Super Stars> has an incentive to not help and in choosing to do so chooses to give that loot up, or if you look at it from the angle of <Super Stars> are now locked out on that mob, they are giving something up. In this case, lockout makes perfect sense.

On the other hand, if there's one or two guys from <Super Stars> who have a buddy in <Not So Great> who needs an epic piece that his guild can't get him and choose to help the guild out, that seems to be something different. Personally, I think this is a bad idea- first of all, there are most definitely people in <Super Stars> who could have that epic piece themselves, as not a single guild on this server is 100% epic'd. Second, this sets a precedent that ultimately leads to, "hey <Super Stars> I'll pay you 100,000 platinum to let me loot Ragefire- which, if that's a good or bad thing is really a completely different conversation.