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Old 04-19-2014, 04:20 PM
Morgander Morgander is offline
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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
There are certain reps from the Class R guilds that discuss the player-made agreement on an off-site forum... it wouldn't necessarily be posted here on Raid Discussion.

As an exaggerated example, if there are 4 Class R guilds that can kill Fay, and 35 Class R guilds are somehow on the Fay rotation, but they keep having to ask for help from the other guilds to kill Fay, there should be some consequences for that, should there not? Otherwise we're just needlessly thinning everything out for everyone and opening the rotation system up for exploitation by "alt guilds".

All a guild would be doing by continuously helping out other guilds is stringing out the rotation for everyone on it. So I would understand the the other Class R guilds might get a little concerned.
I see your point but on the other hand, if we the community do not want this to happen, then we as the community should be saying no to helping other guilds.

Obviously if we're helping people then we're saying--full blown--that we accept this helping other guilds as fact.

Not all of us care as much about how many items we get apposed to how much fun everyone on the entire server is having. Plus, I have several level 60's and the like, so how is it different if my tagged class C character helps a class R guild apposed to my untagged class R? Or a class nothing character? I just don't see the differentiation.

There should NEVER be a case when this kind of discussion is so full of question. We have server GM's and this is their server, what are THE RULES?

IF we have to question these rules like this then there are no rules about this. If rules are not set in stone then how can we feel consequences for the actions of rules not set in stone?

I for one happen to have characters in two guilds and I want to be able to raid with my one guild when the other isn't raiding. I just don't see why this is or should be a problem. This is like telling me that I'm grouping with one group on Monday in Seb and grouping with another group on Tuesday in HS, and now because it's a different group on Tuesday, I'm locked out of HS for a week.

They do that in other mmo's like EQ II.

I just don't see such a huge differentiation between any of the content. Content is content, the only "value" it has is arbitrary to those who want it the most. Why can't I be considered in two guilds? Why do I have to be forced to have loyalty to only one guild? Why can't I have more than one friend or group of friends? What if both guilds accept this based on a predisposition of how much I raid with X guild apposed to Y?

I'm a citizen of the US but my loyalty to humanity goes beyond that. My first and foremost loyalty is to morality, dignity, and good-will. If my loyalty to my country is to be bent, it will and must be bent if my country attempts actions that goes against the scope of my feelings towards the human race.

The same should surely go for a game. And besides, it also shouldn't even have to get that far. EQ is important to me, but not as important as the moral justifications of real life.

So I ask again, what are the official rules? And if those rules are unjust, how can we make them as such?