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Originally Posted by Vlak
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But if the agreement/rotation has AG lined up for the draco kill, and they're in the zone waiting for spawn, I would think they have a more legit claim than a 3rd party who doesn't recognize the agreement/rotation.
Couldn't the classic "talking to the other guys" strategy still work? Even if the interloping guild is not on the rotation, could they not semi-insert themselves on it by joining up with already-clearing guild? True this messes up the loots, especially if both groups are after the same drop. But if the guilds are tiered then why not institute a "keying" system for up-and-comers who want a shot?
Ex: You want a shot at draco? Join an existing rotation member on a kill (pre-arranged or impromptu) and show you can handle it. Kill the draco, you get on the rotation, your guild moves up a tier (or progresses towards moving up a tier). Looting rights etc. would probably have to be case-by-case for these sorts of things, though, which would be a snag to work out.
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The rotation guild still needs to abide by server rules. Our rotation is player enforced and not server rule. The GM's play no role in it other than ensuring we are playing by server rules. In the case that a guild on rotation is in zone waiting for their mob, and a 3rd party guild moves in post-spawn, the guild on rotation, by server rules, must forfeit the mob unless the 3rd party wishes to work with them or otherwise 'blesses' the encounter. Basically, both guilds would need to be in documented agreement that the rotation guild is OK to kill. If the 3rd party has issue with it and wants to engage the mob, it is the duty of the rotation guild to forfeit the encounter. Note this is still in violation of server rules, however, with no one arguing one side or the other it falls into a 'gray' area.
The entire point of the newer raid system was to lessen the load of the GM's and promote communication between guilds - guilds are to solve their own issues with other guilds, and only when this option is exhausted can it be taken to the GM's.
Rogean does not want us to have a barrier for entry on our rotation - we're an inclusive group - if a guild wants a shot, they get added to the rotation and they get their shot.