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Originally Posted by Cyrano
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No one in FE was a strong enough leader to be considered as a co-leader. I don't understand how this is confusing. That was the deal breaker, it was made clear that Getsome would be the sole leader if a merger were to occur yet you guys pushed under some "fairness" clause you made up. You guys say he was rude but how many times can he say "No we will not change guild names and no we will not accept a co-leader" before it becomes beating a dead horse?
You have some fanciful idea of how this merger went down. Final terms were offered, you guys wanted to negotiate for non-negotiable terms. He wasn't being stubborn, he wasn't being a dick. You guys didn't accept the terms so he walked away from the deal.
There was no forcing FE to do anything, stop acting like big, bad IB was pushing the innocent FE membership around. There was a bottom line and it was not acceptable to you guys which is totally fine. What is questionable is the way FE quickly joined TMO under the EXACT same merger stipulations while vilifying IB. Your guild identity became that of victims. First is TMO being horrible cheaters, and blah blah blah. Now it's IB.
At the end of the day stop making this about some issue of morals or us "forcing" you guys into a situation, this was all about spiting IB because you collectively felt wronged by our terms for the merger. You felt so scorned that you were willing to join your greatest competitor - the guild FE was supposedly created to topple - and sell out in the process.
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Couple clarifications for the delusional...
FE did consider going on our own. Structural leadership was never a problem, raid leadership was once Sloan left (He moved across the country and took a full-time job, Splorf).
Actually, Getsome was willing to compromise on co-leader during our last negotiation, but by that time I had little interest in merging with IB, so I made the last clause of changing the name a non-negotiable deal breaker and I walked from the deal, not the other way around.
Getsome and I get along fine, we just don't see eye to eye on certain issues like guild mergers or training juggs over water.
I think an example of poor leadership would have been to accept any deal without knowing what all your options are. I would have been remiss to have not sought TMO as an option.
You ask why I'm not co-leader, or any other FE officer for that matter in TMO - I didn't ask. I didn't think it was necessary. In fact, TMO didn't make any terms. I told them exactly what I wanted for our members and they agreed with no amendments.
Originally, I thought that our members would be happiest with IB, however there was a lot more discontent than I thought when that merger was on the horizon. TMO had an overwhelming amount of support over IB, which guided our decision.
Yes, it is about pixels because that's why most of our members play. Pixels don't really interest me personally.
I didn't train my own guild to make them think it was TMO, derp. I trained TMO and FE happened to be down there as well. All in all, I died either way and we still got the VS - I'd call it a win/win. Also, Goodies down-leveled in the ordeal which was early restitution for her later stealing a Hand of the Maestro from FE and refusing to return it. Apparently, she did the exact same thing when she was leader of Acryd. IB - be wary letting her hold onto no-drops, she has a reputation as a repeat offender at this point.