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Old 09-08-2010, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yaeger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Back on the Classic Server, rogues used to be able to pickpocket anything.

For example, anything on a mobs loot table was fair game. After enough people finished killing a raid boss (Naggy, Vox, Cazic for example), loot the corpse, and finding nothing on it they finally complained enough that the devs limited Rogue PP to non-magical items.

Personally I have no problem with Rogues taking PP from engaged or non-engaged mobs. I also have no problem with Rogues pickpocketing items from named mobs before they are engaged.

On the other hand, the rogue is supposed to be the outlaw, the rebel, the thief. It fits perfectly into the class that the rogue can 'steal' from other players.

I doubt the devs are going to do anything about it. The mechanic is fine, you just have to convince the people playing the 'outlaw' class to play nice.
The problem I have with the mechanic is that it causes one to question so much else which seems wrong with the class. Sure, "outlaws" are typically able to steal from people and get good at it.

So good they can sneak by a very old dragon, steal a bunch of very heavy and valuable items and bags full of platinum and leave without the dragon noticing?

Furthermore, how can they simply disappear from plain sight? Are they magical? If they're magically disappearing from sight, why don't they have to use mana to remain hidden?

If Rogues are "so good" at stealing, why aren't monks "so good" at kicking? Why can't the monk split the dragon's head in two in one blow? They "hone their bodies into weapons," don't they? Why does feign death ever fail if monks are so good at it?

Why can't a wizard call a 6000-ton meteor from the sky, smash through the mountain and crush Nagafen to death? They are "masters of the arcane," aren't they?



I just think it's a silly mechanic at the degree to which they can currently act. Sure, rogues are supposed to be masters of subtlety and theft - but there's supposed to be more limitations. I don't give a crap how good of a magician or illusionist you are RL, you're not stealing a sword from me that i'm holding in my hand in front of my face, without me noticing. I can buy that you'd steal small items or stored items from bags - I know how good some airport thieves are.

But stealing from a freaking dragon? Gimme a break =P
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I'll look into getting it changed to The Secret Order of the Silver Rose of Truth and Dragons.