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Originally Posted by Virtuosos
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the simple fact that neither guild was in hate for more than a few hours (trans actively clearing mobs and DA zoning in and waiting 30minutes) kinda cancels out the whole "poopsock" thing....maybe DA had intention on doing it, i dont know... but trans doesnt really stick around for hours hoping for a raid boss.
but keep it up, eventually i think everyone is going to totally agree
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According to Supreme..
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He was due and there was nothing better to do than wait. If he would have spawned 5 hours later i promise we would have not been there (least i would not have been there).
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Not sure if 5 hours is considered poopsocking but he appears to be saying Trans was planning to sit around for a good while. The early spawn was just dumb luck. Is it a distinction with out a difference?
If the door has now been reopened to camping outside aggro range, then yes, poopsocking now appears to be part of the picture again. Rogean denounced DA for leapfrogging but did not berate Trans for camping outside aggro which seems to go counter to the FTE we thought they were trying to promote with the new rules change. Utlimately Rogean did go to the logs for aggro chain which was probably the best way to deal with it.
I think it's safe to say camping the spawn without a zerg force is suicide and any guild forced to do it by a competing raid will end up loosing as they wipe. Trans did the only thing they could to have a serious chance at the kill. Problem is the rules dictating being at the spawn in aggro range favor numbers. Possibly an unexpected consequence of the rules revision.