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Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll break down my original points

Well, allow me to retort. Thanks for the veiled slight regarding my intelligence, by the way - I really needed you to break this down for me to understand it.

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Telling this person they are an asshole or wrong isn't going to change their beliefs on the core level unless you can really convince them.

I save my convincing abilities for other arenas. If I'm calling someone an asshole, it's not because I'm looking to convert them to Spittyism. All I'm doing is figuratively raising my hand, extending my finger and going "look, over there...that's an asshole." That's all it is. Whether or not you feel like I called you an asshole is moot, if what we're really discussing is this inherent sexism.

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mostly expressed my opinion that in GENERAL, as in most of the time, not all the time, many female gamers I've met are slightly less hardcore than men. It's just a fact of reality that most pro gamers, as in people paid to play, are men. You can debate the reasoning behind that, it doesn't actually matter why it is or isn't. It's just a fact of reality.

You feel the need to quantify your own statement fivefold before you agree with it. Does that strike you as odd?

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being more casual is not a bad thing in itself. I never said females are worse at games than men. But generally I am more likely on a subconscious level to be more cautious I suppose of a female gamer, I need to first see how they play.

No, you are doing this on a conscious level. You are so fully aware of your need to qualify a female gamer that you're telling a random person about it, in detail, on a message board.

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wanted to show that I do think that there is a grey area... it is alright to openly express your opinions if the situation is appropriate, it is not okay to be openly hateful towards other people.

This isn't about hate - there's clearly enough of that around. This is about you claiming to be a white-knight in the daunting face of sexism despite the fact that you're guarding the door to the boy's club when it comes to gaming.

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dislike when people openly hate females and no one does anything about it. I think that kind of behavior should be called out.

You and I are very much on the same page with this statement. I feel I personify it a little better than you do, though.

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it becomes an issue when you have people saying things like "fuck all these whores"

I think that when the time comes when you can make your point without resorting to using this phrase in any capacity, then you will have made progress.