[Noleafclover]

I'm really sick of leapfrogging threads since the FTE rule. I've got 3 questions I'd like you to consider. As it's fair to consider this an attack on transcendence's view here that they were leapfrogged, first I'm going to give you some background on my feelings on the decision, and on DA.

I'll also briefly state that yes - I feel I've met more than the average amount of assholes from trans - and yes, I don't like Supreme from his posts here.

But my question is more about the "leapfrogging" issue that's cropped up since FTE rules. If this is TLDR, skip to 3) where I state what I believe to be indisputable facts, and ask my 3 questions.

Two small points first.

1) Decision

I believe Rogean made the right call here. It's first to engage, straight up, by the rules. And straight up, Inny disengaged after DTing according to the logs.

I think subjectively Inny should have belonged to DA, but it's better to stick to the rules to (theoretically) minimize crying. It should even out in the long run, and people can plan around it with DTing mobs.

2) DA

I'm not a fan of DA's leadership's past and present decisions. Duping items and crashing zones was a dick move - and OK, they took their lumps for that - but DA is the leading cause of poopsocking, as agreed by everyone else; and has camped mobs AT spawn points under the current iteration of the rules. Which is just ridiculous.

3) Leapfrogging: Some facts

-The new rules encourage leapfrogging by being first to engage mobs, with no mention of trash or position giving a raid credit.

-There has been what could be - and has been, on the forums - called leapfrogging since the rule change on EVERY cazic spawn, and plenty in plane of sky with the 8 hour spawn timer.

-Every single top guild has been accused of it.

-Many players enjoy it, and feel that it's competitive. Many guilds admit to it. There are calls for FFA, or for moving more in that direction.

So, with those facts in mind

Is every player who enjoys the competition of leapfrogging a douche?

If so, then leapfrogging must be inherently evil. If it's inherently evil, what's stopping you from making agreements with several or every other guild on the server to not leapfrog each other? Shouldn't they automatically agree, assuming they were not also inherently evil?

Wouldn't this solve your problem?