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Old 03-17-2014, 04:38 PM
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Are you, or are you not the person who was just explaining your position by describing your target pool as "people just blatantly women hating to the extreme you can sometimes see on message boards and in comments on youtube"?

Do you really have a difficult time understanding why I have a somewhat poor view of internet dwellers? Do I need to find examples in this thread of people that are clearly right at home when it comes to trolling and personal attacks?

I don't get you. At all.
I'll break down my original points

1) Having an opinion on a situation, person, or other form of thought is not bad in itself. Everyone has an opinion on something whether they would like to have one or not. Unless you are of the school of thought that gender is only a construct and there is absolutely no difference between women and men outside the physical differences, you will likely think there are minor differences between women and men. Telling this person they are an asshole or wrong isn't going to change their beliefs on the core level unless you can really convince them. It's possible to silence them, but it's hard to change their core thoughts.

2) I mostly expressed my opinion that in GENERAL, as in most of the time, not all the time, many female gamers I've met are slightly less hardcore than men. It's just a fact of reality that most pro gamers, as in people paid to play, are men. You can debate the reasoning behind that, it doesn't actually matter why it is or isn't. It's just a fact of reality.

3) I have gained some stereotypes of female gamers through experience which is what I stated in the above post. Being more casual is not a bad thing in itself. I never said females are worse at games than men. But generally I am more likely on a subconscious level to be more cautious I suppose of a female gamer, I need to first see how they play. If they are a great player I have no issues considering them as such. I have met many good female gamers.

4) I mentioned the above because originally, I wanted to show that I do not view the situation as black or white. I wanted to show that I do think that there is a grey area... it is alright to openly express your opinions if the situation is appropriate, it is not okay to be openly hateful towards other people.

5) Blatantly discrediting female gamers who have shown their skill is disrespectful to them. Also, being hateful towards females is also something I'm not a fan of. I used the word sexist but I suppose really what I should have said Is I dislike when people openly hate females and no one does anything about it. I think that kind of behavior should be called out.

6) If someone is rational and freely expressing their thoughts I do not think that in and itself is bad if they are not intentionally being hurtful or trying to degrade someone. I think it becomes an issue when you have people saying things like "fuck all these whores"
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