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Old 02-18-2014, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
When you're root rotting, you shouldn't have a pet engaging the enemy, as they will break roots.

When you're fear kiting, yes, adds happen, but if you have eyes on what you're fear kiting (which you should), you know when to pull back your pet, or when to pre-cast a Darkness before it aggros so it comes to you first for a fear. Further, you can minimize the occurrence of these by letting the mob get close to you before a re-fear, and if you are good at counting your Darkness ticks, you will *never* be caught unaware. Further, appropriate use of Invoke Fear v Fear can help you maintain positioning far better. You don't use Invoke if there are enemies within range, use regular Fear for the shorter duration, so you can pull it back to you after it is over. It hurts the DPS, but is far safer in such a situation.

The number of times a mob aggros my pet rather than aggros me is infinitesimal in the grand scheme. If you're playing right, the mobs should be aggroing the necromancer, not the pet. You get a series of resists, you do what I said: Reclaim clickie and FD. You don't want your pet to tank, otherwise you lose the mana investment, and even if you can get the mob snared and feared, and your pet is dead. Instead, you reset the pull and put it up to bad luck. How often do you get chain-resists in post 50? That shit happens a lot at earlier levels, sure, but chain resists at max level, against higher level blues? Generally if the mob is resisting, they are immune, if they don't resist, they are not. It is pretty rare to get random resists in the 50-60 range. I cannot think of even once having fear resisted on spectres or bloodgills, a root resisted on nobles, or a root resisted on charm killing shit in Charasis. Some dots often get resisted, but those do not even have a hope of landing.

Pets do enough damage to outweigh them dying if you fuck up. There's no reason your pet should ever be getting aggro if you're playing well. And if you're not playing well, your pet will die and you will deserve the loss of the pet, because you fucked up.
It's all fine to say you should never be caught unaware and you should use different fears and keep mobs routinely controlled. And if you can do that with regularity congratulations. Sadly it's just not realistic, the random number generator will trip you up and you will run into adds unless you're playing overly conservative.

Mob aggro on pets right now is flatout broken on this server, but on live it was a much larger problem, and considering the devs are probably going to restore it you'll see this as an issue again. As for resists on those mobs I'm impressed you don't have resists on bloodgills or spectres. I've not camped Bloods here, but on live they do resist spells and spectres (which I have killed here and on live) do as well. If you haven't got root resisted that's...really just hard to believe. P99 50+ sounds like a paradise compared to live or even the resist code on Red.

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I didn't say without losing experience, I said without getting "deleveled" as you said. You made it sound as if to get the EEs, people had to be deleveled for it. A 60 can suicide to a guard 6 times from 100% into 60, and go to 59. Then, you sacrifice them 5-6 times, and then you get a cleric to rez the 6 suicide corpses. They re-ding 60, boom. You have EEs, they are still 60, and their kills are not wasted. This is always how it was done to get a bunch of EEs without making it as malicious as:
Not sure I get this. You take a 60 who is maxed on exp and then you sac him 5-6 times, right? Why do you have him suicide on guards and get resurrected?

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Again, you say it doesn't make them more powerful. Define power? What aspect of power? That is a value ridden term, heavily subjective. To me, having a 93% rez on demand is powerful. Incredibly powerful. Especially since I am a far more self-sufficient class than a Paladin or Cleric, I would much rather pay 350pp-400pp to have a rez than try to find a Cleric to do a rez for me.

So, ultimately no, I do not agree in the least. I do not agree that it is "not powerful", because I do not believe it is reasonable in any form to say that having a 350pp gem in your bag that lets you use a 93% rez at any point you want is nothing more than a gimmick. That is power. It isn't hard power, but hard power is not the only kind of power.
That's fine. To me power is spells actually getting better with each level or at least keeping pace with the the progression of mob's power and other classes. I'd rather have better lifetaps and pets and dots that do a lot more damage than receive a resurrection spell with strings attached. When you consider how much better melees got post 50, and how much stronger monsters got, the necromancer was hosed in nearly every category.