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Originally Posted by Skope
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WI for some reason didn't feel it necessary to immediately camp during the DTs, which i thought was odd, but they were the one guild that would remain logged in and on the hate list the longest so that's probably the reason for the majority of DT's hitting them.
As for the poopsocking... guilds camping characters at a spawn point is common practice, even DA has done that, the difference is that DA had done that to 2 targets this past week with the intent to poopsock. Granted it was only several hours at a time, this will almost certainly stretch. This is exactly how poopsocking started, with guilds deciding that it would be wise to just leave your character logged in and hope for a pop because they weren't quick to pull the trigger on mobilization and tracking, this was then magnified when multiple guilds were doing it and then it subsequently stretched itself out over days.
The past 2 weeks there has been a lot of racing, and there was only one time that divinity had killed a target without any real competition (no guilds were actually aware it was up other than us, but we tracked, hopped on and ported in). No guild since the inception of these new rules decided to leave their characters logged in for hours and wait for spawn until DA decided it was their intent to do that.
Is it legal? Absolutely. I had issues with the rules from the first glance, knowing full-well that it left this option (or loophole, in my opinion) hoping that something like this wouldn't recur, and for a while it didn't. Targets were tracked, targets were raced to and targets were downed. But the fact is, many people think it's just flat-out wrong to leave your character logged in and waiting. Why? Because it technically doesn't jive well with the rules of first-to-engage. After months of poopsocking and keeping our mouths shut, the majority of the server really had enough of it, and rightfully so. This isn't the same poopsocking (the guild p'socking doesn't necessarily have the first shot, but you can see where the advantage lies), but there is still a very nasty taste in all of our mouths, and the one guild that it can really be attributed to is DA. There will be people saying they weren't the first, and that perhaps it isn't even poopsocking now, but the fact of the matter is they are and have been the single guild to use and abuse that tactic to its fullest and used (and will probably be using) that as their sole tactic for taking down a target.
My piece is said.
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All I'm saying, is while sitting on the target.. There were duels and laughs shared by many. We weren't afk, we were all having an enjoyable time hanging out. I don't see where camping a raid target is any different than camping a spawn of your choice. Yeah, there's not as much killing as if you'd camp frenzy, but does that really make it that much different?
I sat in frenzy for 37 hours... Does that make me a bad person? A poopsocker so to speak? I'm not sure what the need for all the hatred is.. Vesica Dei was holding innoruuk's camp before DA. VD gave up and Senaiel said "it's all yours" and they left. DA didn't try to leapfrog them or go sit on the spawn point when VD was sitting on the ramp. DA respected VD's claims to inny and left it at that, until they left. I think alot of people pinpoint DA for their own reasons. But come on, DA is not the only ones doing this.