What unfair advantage?
TMO needed a 135 man roster to compete with TR and a turnout of up to 80 people commonly before they were competitive.
TMO now doesnt, and fields 35-50 people depending on target and time of day. Great improvement. Historically TM-A were doing the exact same as we are forced to now, and TR welcomed the competition and eventually a lack of VP and killing the same shit week in week out burned so many out you win by attrition. Bravo.
TR back then did 30-35. we now do 12-20 people. 30 on a repop
FE does 15-25 people, 35 on a repop.
Thus, we can only compete if we share the duties of tracking, #'s on spawn, dps and heals, despite our differences, and we let any and all of those differences slide in the face of our more important desire to be competitive and at times beat, at times lose to, our competition. Now, should we because of much smaller rosters of active people than TMO independently instead spend the next 6 months recruiting and getting to TMO numbers, or for the time being enjoy our small, efficient group of folks and slow high quality applicant stream.
What I see TMO guys here asking is that both FE and IB step down from competitive class until they are able to compete individually, and for TMO to have all C class spawns to themselves to feed their many mouths and many alts. Normally, I'd be fine with that. Part of being competitive is there has to be a second place. But we have an opportunity to usher in a new raid culture. Why not let people work together to make it a fun an prosperous environnment through not only the loot, but in the sense of accomplishment and worthy adversary that TMO present. You guys have stepped your game up big time since we left for Mac. Us? We have only 3 remaining clerics of what was once arguably the best 9-10 ever in the one guild in eq's history.
So theres clearly a few options here:
TMO gives IB unconstested VP for 4-6 months, like IB earnt and wasnt given as VP was released so late.
TMO settles down, sees how it plays out and we review it all in a month or two.
TMO demands we raid as one all the time, which neither of IB or FE want to do (or we would of merged), and this would just see a bunch from both guilds quit, as it isnt what we want, and I'd rather not kill mobs than be forced to kill them with TMO/A style numbers.
I think the 2nd option is the best obviously, it does very little to affect anyone else, forces TMO to flex its (large) muscle and advantageous 1.5 years of farming VP uncontested for alts, and it allows us a fair medium to help our many many new members in each guild.
I just cant see why after two repops, and one of them jointly raided, there is a 16 page thread on the topic. If there are legitimate grievences after the dice settle down then sure, open the lines of communication (which should admittedly never close with your new leadership and the excellent reputation we all hope to build as a community now), and talk about it with the leadership of both guilds and work out a compromise.
But jumping the gun after week 1 is a show of cards I thought the server did no longer need to deal with. I thought this forumtrolling and white knighting shit was over and we could all get back to the business of having fun.
So what is it that you really want, to make noise, or to express a legitimate grievance over an extremely small sample size, based on an action that has taken place 50% of the given chances.
Sorry, I cant see the logic. Speak to me in about mid/late feb and see how things are and let's hope some other guilds do the same to share in the spoils, as with our tracking and mobilisation power, that of TMO, and BDA, and Taken, there is not much left without alliances being made for the same reasons they exist today for us.
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