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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey
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fixed it for ya
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We didn't stone wall discussions. We're not the ones that had the server put on a suspension and refused to negotiate because we had nothing to lose. Your collective entourage held many of us hostage from doing the only thing we log in to do. The casual guilds continued with business as usual, unhindered. And, our argument went beyond the scope of competition, it also tried to illustrate the fundamental concept of more work = better loot, a notion many of us have come to except/appreciate/enjoy. The tier 1 guilds offered many solutions, each one rejected in its entirety and never a single amendment to those proposals were entertained. All we heard was "Divinity plan this", "Rogean plan that", "1/1/1 FTW!".
There is no negotiation when absolution is dictated by tyranny. There was no voting here. What you call negotiation, we call conspiracy. Many of the actual conversations that ended up 'dictating' the direction of the raid scene on this server, were done so in the absence of 3 major players in the raid scene.
TMO, FE, and IB, didn't act as a retaliation or with vengeance. We came to do what we wanted -- kill merbs. It was in our best interest to act reasonably and create an atmosphere in which TMO and FE or IB weren't "accidentally" training one another and playing fraps quest on day 1. Will this arrangement continue? We haven't spoken in definitive terms about this.
Also, FE raiding separately from IB as a point of contention is ridiculous. IB and FE have forces individually capable of raiding content individually. There is no sense in both guilds teaming up to engage these mobs as a joint entity and splitting the spoils of war, when we can kill our respective targets in an isolated fashion. IB and FE have a strong relationship as many current IB members and even FE members were once all guild mates. In addition, how we approach our targets is really of no consequence to Class R. This is the system you lobbied for amongst yourselves and without our voice.
Caveat Emptor.