thanks all for the input, I have been going to and throw for the the last few days and think what it come down to is the frontal stun, it is an ability that cannot be replicated with gear (regen can).
but as Bongs said the most important factor is skill.
would the wiki be right when it comes to +5agi and then +25 wis for a ogre ?
the wis > sta debate on the wiki is worked out at level 40 is this the same at 60 or does the diminishing returns get worse over the caps ?
thanks again in advance
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