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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope for this as well, too! Thank you for acknowledging the issues and understanding. I know there is an expectations gap for both sides but hopefully we can all learn from past mistakes and move forward so we can all go back to having fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

indeed, and that indeed is in part why I started this discussion after seeing the replies to plan C and how some parties don't want anything but a straight handout, and even once they get some handouts they want them more.

what needs to happen is a reevaluation of the current rules. Proposed changes to said rules, and some discussion. We do not need a system or welfare. Some guilds state they cannot compete, but then when given an advantage to compete they don't want to compete they just want it.

the CS staff had too many petitions, okay I get it... No guild should do first and petition later, such as ninja looting etc etc.

the line of rules must be drawn and properly and equally enforced- THAT is what caused the raid issues that are today.