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Old 01-02-2014, 12:48 AM
Seltius Seltius is offline
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Originally Posted by Morbo the Annihilator [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Translation:
In order to move forward, all guilds should adopt the raiding strategies that sent the raid scene spiralling down the toilet in the first place.


Currently, the only avenue that a guild must take in order to see a raid boss is to track through excessive spawn windows and have an army camped nearby.
It has been determined by GMs and a majority of raiders that this should not be the only avenue for seeing a raid target.

So other avenues must be considered.

Splitting each month into a 50% rotation/50% FFA seems like a popular option for a lot of people, though it's still considered to be charity by those who are willing to spend their lives tracking it in a FFA setting.

What if the Rotation in the first 15-days of the month only offered each guild a 20-minute grace period before going into FFA, rather than 8 hours (which IMO is excessive).
That way, guilds aren't taking all of their rotation mobs for granted. They still have to track and mobilise as fast as usual, but they just have 20 minutes of no interruptions in order to get to their raid boss.
If they wipe or fail to engage within 20 minutes, their mob becomes FFA.
Then im lost on what is considered toxic on this server. Since I started playing I have heard how toxic the raid scene is but when someone is asked they can never explain what they mean. Is toxic having alts or is it the training in VP that was allowed or is it the training and ksing etc. that was "accidentally" happening between the "hardcore" raiding guilds on things like Trak and VS? Or maybe how they actually had to put FTE in because otherwise guilds will try to steal targets from each other. Perfect example was Nobles how many guilds would sit there and wait for the spawn to see if they could be the one lucky enough to hit it first and get FTE? Please explain as I was attempting to at least understand to an extent what the issue is instead of attacking others over their ideas.

I'm glad your offering ideas but so was I. Oh and I'm actually pretty clueless about how bad the server has been for 2 years. For the most part I have tried to play nice and stay out of the guild politics. I chat and joke with everyone no matter tag ask Taselhof(sp? sorry man I cant remember your an Jeremy's alts spellings of name) I would talk with him in KC or Seb or even VP while there.

I feel that the brainstorming here is an alternative to the hate that has been going on here so heavily even if our ideas aren't discussed by or respective representatives. So I wont bash your ideas and feel free not to bash mine if you would like to try to improve on them then go ahead I wont be offended. But the point of my post stands. The GMs gave us the start of a way to raid less toxic start with that and build from there.