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You guys need to stop trying to split the raid scene in any % for the different "types" of guilds and come up with a system that applies to everyone equally.
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If I was to camp orc 1 (and 2) on a lvl 60 toon for 4 years, what would the reaction be? Maybe lock down all the camps in west commons also, and keep all the crocs clear in Oasis. What would the social backlash be? Think a GM would step in? Why is player behavior looked at differently when we are 60? It shouldn't be.
Tier the raiding scene. If you're in VP you don't get Nagafen and Vox, as a loose example. I have yet to see anything proposed or put forth that isn't transparent as far as the motivation and greed.
I said it 3 years ago, give me reign over this and I'll resolve it one way or the other, and end this posturing and positioning to be the one(s) that gets everything. Are we going to make more rules to lawyer, or are we going to remember the INTENT behind the change. I see people coming up with a system for the sake of having the system in place so they can ensure they get the loots from raid mobs, and missing this incredible opportunity to change the server as a whole for the better. Without making it a welfare state, or the adolescents running amok with immaturity and greed with the cry of "it's classic".
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If they became a significant raid presence, they would gain representation.
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The reason other guilds never became a 'significant raid presence' is because of the behavior and monopolization of certain groups of people for years, combined with the unwillingness to behave like the 'raid presence' guilds and be a further detriment to the server. So they are penalized for not making the server a worse place? Some of us were at the very top on live, and have no desire to play in the mud with miscreants.
I say this because it comes down to this for a vast majority of us.
We don't trust you. And by you, I don't necessarily the OP, but there is a distinct difference between wanting a deal done so you can continue to get loots, or get a deal done because the server would be better for it. This is what I mean by transparency. I have seen and heard from only one person whose intent I trust on this, and I propose this. Have someone NOT involved, an arbitrator, a facilitator, and come up with an agreement. I do not like the idea of 'letting the fox guard the hen house', or letting 10 pct of the server speak for the other 90pct as well. I have nothing wrong with a motivated group of members getting the majority of kills because they are that motivated. But it is the way people go about it and go past a little extra for themselves to flat out greed, or something deliberately malicious and hurtful towards their fellow players.
"A bone shared with the dog is not charity. Charity is sharing the bone with the dog, when you are just as hungry as the dog."
Remove the variance and enforce play nice. You want to act like a miscreant, the toons ion your guild are stripped.