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Old 12-28-2013, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by baramur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You getting into semantics now. Don't you really mean to say TMO/FE/IB would love killing 4x as many vp mobs each month. Let us get realistic, TMO could have ended this 2 years ago when they were crowned king of raiders and IB left server for mac. They then at that time could have turned to the server and said we will sit out 1 week of every month to let the rest of the server raid uncontested by us on every raid mob, and we hope the other 3 weeks you will compete with us and show up competition. But instead they took every single raid mob they could, and this is the result. If they had been just a little sharing, it never would have came to this, and now that its on the table people are going to overpush for all the mobs they feel they have been deprived.
I have two responses to this:

1) If you think the domination of the server raid scene was somehow unique to the people in TMO and would never have happened with any other guild, then you have such a weak grasp of human nature in competitive situations that I really cannot help you.

2) Of course TMO and FE/IB will get more mobs if there are repops. But so will everyone else. The big advantage to repops is that it gives people more without taking away from anyone. Nobody has to sit out. This makes the whole concept easier to swallow for all parties, which is something that we obviously need considering how far the "negotiation" threads have gone.

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BUT, I will not lay all the blaim on TMO, because this server could have PUT IN EFFORT and fought back, but they laid down and died and cried. Now all that being said everyone do yourselves and the server a favor.
There was considerable effort put into "fighting back." TMO was still winning up until the point of staff intervention. But again, this is all entirely beside the point being made about repops.

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Start of simple and build it slowly and smartly. Why do people think this has to be set in stone immediately. Work on it. Try out different things. Work WITH the big guilds. Make tweaks, modify things, BUT DO NOT try to overstretch it right of the bat. Be smart. Don't test how much weight the boat will hold before sinking right away.
Nowhere have I suggested that this idea is the one-stop solution. The last part of my previous post was that this is an easy step in the right direction.

Frankly, I don't see how we could start any simpler than adding more repops with no trains in VP and see how it pans out. Nobody has to watch 2-hour windows, nobody has to keep track of rotations, nobody has to spend points or anything. There's more to go around, with an enforced expectation of less shenanigans, and the standard penalty for shenanigans hurts more. Easy peasy.