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Originally Posted by hatelore
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For one, I don't consider you an enemy.
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You seemed not to like me a great deal. Saying I was talking out of my ass etc. Okay tho, pals.
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Originally Posted by hatelore
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For two, you probably shouldn't attempt to input words into my mouth. I trust that if Rogean swung that ban hammer, there was a definite purpose for it.
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I didn't put words in your mouth. I strongly questioned that you really thought that even 10% of the # of people banned were using said exploit. Personally, I'd think in the case of those banned and the fact it didn't leak out that they were being greedy and abusing it for personal use.
This reinforces my point of permanent ban lists and these 2 players should never be able to reroll on any server. That's a real fix to the problem, weeding out and ELIMINATING people who've been banned. Uthgaard was all about this in the great
3rd party program scandal.
Interestingly, Rogean has gone with the more extreme Uthgaard type approach, but I'm not sure if he has attempted to (or if anyone really has the time to) see who was really benefitting from it. I guess its safer that people stay banned until he figures out who really was part of said crime ring. And I'm sorry to say I'd support that because it could be months. But to be sure on a few things.
#1 - no rerolling for anyone found to be using or benefitting from said bug. Immediately applicable to Froovy/Internode.
#2 - unbanning or perma banning per investigation of players on a case by case basis, as cases are investigated... however long it takes
I'm absolutely all for banning people, but take the right approach even if people have to be locked down in ban mode for sharing info with known suspects.
Further, if you think TMO's (let's say esp Loly's) opinion of them getting caught is "oh well too bad!"... I doubt it. I'm sure they are furious at these two INDIVIDUALS (so far!) that caused this problem to the server they play on. Further, I'm sure if they were caught doing it at any time by Zeelot (for instance) they'd be gkicked.
Or, wouldn't the guild bank, if they were widely abusing this have been banned in the process? If I was Rogean I would be looking into how much duplicated plat were on known (obvious, look for Trak BPs) guild bank accounts before refusing to remove the ban of anyone in TMO. I think the public outing was a good thing because at best, it will be a stern reminder to guild officers that they are responsible for the actions of their members. At worst, a guild of more successful try hards you don't like got disbanded for something 99% of them didn't do.