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Originally Posted by Itchybottom
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I can't take it anymore. Sorry about the de-rail here, but I keep seeing people on this forum using karma completely wrong. It is NOT cause and effect, that is nothing more than westernized non-sense and misunderstanding. Karma spans over multiple life spans, and it is VERY RARE for karma to influence your current life and especially instantly and or the present.
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Karma is a word in sanskrit for action. An action can be good, bad, or neutral. In western culture there is a tendency to mystify karma. It's more of a logical or philosophical truth.
If you perform bad actions a lot it will come back in a negative way because of our conscience. What a bad action is or isn't is determined by that individual and this is why intent, etc is so important.
For example, if you don't like hurting animals and in a fit of rage you kick your dog that will have a negative impact on you in addition to the dog that manifests itself in your psyche. A lot of people lie about what does or doesn't bother them morally and so we perform a lot of actions that we know are bad and they come back to haunt us. The opposite is also true. If you think helping sick people is a good action and you spend all your time in hospitals volunteering then you will tend to be happy, etc as a result.
Now the "over lifetimes" statement is also a bit misleading because the view of life in this philosophy is that of an ocean of energy and all the life we see are like ripples on the surface of that ocean caused by the winds of the physical plane. We are all the same life but our perspective makes us see those waves as individual entities while ignoring the ocean they arise from. So, by either performing good or bad actions within your own moral compass you are affecting all of life and the energy that life has (Is life happy or sad?).
To go one step further the western view is that life arises from the physical which produces a mind. The eastern view is that life arises from the mind which requires a physical manifestation. We are composed of all these cells but how are those cells arranged in the way they are? Our physical form is a crystallization around the energy signature that is us. At conception the entire entity that will eventually "exist" already exists in the information stored in their DNA. Energy is consumed to begin that crystallization process in the correct way to form the entity that has been created. Phantom limb pain is a good physical example of this. People lose a limb but still feel it's there because their energy signature hasn't adapted to its loss. Picture animals like salamanders that can regenerate body parts. Humans lost this ability in exchange for extremely complicated cellular organization.
Similar to the way our cells divide and multiply so has DNA and whatever DNA arose from and so on. You consider yourself a single entity but acknowledge you're made up of tiny cells, bacteria, etc all working to produce you and all of this arose from you splitting off from your two parents in the same way a skin cell is formed, lives its life, dies, and flakes off. If you consider yourself a single entity but can acknowledge all the smaller entities that make you exist is it so hard to imagine life as a whole being a single entity made up of its component cells? Personally I like to think of life as an animal itself that is not evolving but rather just aging.
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I'm pretty sure most people don't believe in this unfalsifiable voodoo shit. Just saying.
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Where does the voodoo come into play?