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Originally Posted by Barkingturtle
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Complete illogicality, irrationality and fantasticity would be called abstract -- not surreal. There are no vacuums, dicks, nor vaginas without logical, rational, non-fantastic reality. Without some semblance of reality, you're looking at triangles and colors which represent the concept of a vacuum, a dick, a cunt, etc. Ain't nobody got time for that.
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(Basing these sentiments on 2d media.)
Abstraction isn't irrationality either. Even if you're just talking about automatism, where people try to draw, etc. according to unconscious impulses, etc.; the movements of paint through brush work or the scratching of pencil on paper are all items in a Feature List that can be used to analyze the complex object we call a picture. That even the most gestural of surrealist works are systematized, where the random accidental features are subsumed by the work (Frottage pictures, of Max Ernst come to mind.) , proves at least to me that there is little illogical in the works of an real artist.
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Originally Posted by theaetatus
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As you said, "Surreal is about representing reality...". It's through an unreal perspective but based on reality.
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Some of my favorite Surrealist paintings recombine mundane items in a dreamlike setting, or set up a context where the Real objects taken together become Surreal objects by the nature of their being together unexpectedly or being seemingly in contradiction. See: Rene Magritte. "Ceci est une pipe. Ceci n'est pas une pipe."