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Old 11-13-2013, 01:20 PM
Barahir Barahir is offline
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Yaaaaaaaay I get to post in a really long annoying thread. One nice thing about this thread is that most people seemed to say everything that needed to be said already. Props to those people.

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Originally Posted by Lithose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You're attempting to get into a semantics debate over a word but missing the structure of the sentence. A donation is a gift, or contribution. It's some application of wealth to a person, cause or institution--wealth as measured by time, goods or money. In this case, it's money.

So the word "donation" itself could mean gift, which is voluntary. However, the statement clearly says "Porting FOR donation". That preposition means that the verb (Porting) will ONLY be done because of the noun (Donation). The entire structure of this statement is a phrase denoting that the porter's actions are a direct result of the donation (Or an implied donation when the service is rendered.)

Your semantic argument is focusing on just the word. Why? Did the porter come up to you and say "Donation" thirty times without any context? No? Then it's not implied that it's optional.

The only thing you could imply that's optional is the amount. Which is why the word "donation" is used, because the amount fluctuates depending on the means of the person taking advantage of the service. There are a lot of factors that can affect how much you should pay for a port (Traffic of the port area, level, money, on a CR ect)--requiring a "donation" simply makes it easier for the price to be appropriate depending on the person transported, rather than haggling for every pick up.

The fact is, donations have been used by institutions for 500+ years as a way to ask for payment on a service that can't be fixed due to a myriad number of reasons.
Excellent post that pretty much defeats the already pretty flimsy initial argument. Was more or less ignored by the OP because it so completely defeated them. Also I noticed this was a first post, excellent first post.

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Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
For reference, Jingleson plays a ranger... and should be allowed to feel slightly bitter. I understand the need to vent based on that.
Don't ranger hate or Chuck Norris will find you!!!

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I don't eat at restaurants, I prefer to cook my own meals. And I wouldn't tip anyway because they get paid a salary. Not worth the consideration.
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*shrug* Guess I'll be speaking to Capco and Barahir then.
You had been kicked from the guild many many pages before Kyle said something. that being said he let you off light. Since Relemis was remiss in that regard I'll make up for his shortfall.

If you do not tip at bars/restaurants then kill yourself because the world would be a better place without you.


Now since there is a lot of trolling in this thread that I had to respond to and I of course have to get my own trolling in....

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OP is a painfully uncool/uninteresting person
Says the person in Belgium................