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Old 11-11-2013, 03:36 AM
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running an encrypted virtual machine inside a linux box over a vpn with proxies is pretty much the only way to surf anon. tor (alone) has multiple vulnerabilities that can be exploited if "they" are trying to find your data trail.
All this does is give some reasonable protection of evidence, or whatever it is you have saved. But their logging these streams with TOR and everything else from when you connect your network to the ISP and the endpoints out of the TOR nodes. In extreme cases your virtual machine is running code with an exploit or has been cracked already. In any case it's enough to get you in trouble if they decide your a terrorist. A means of physically destroying your computer is the best bet, but they will still have logs that you visited XYZ vpn. And may even have some data from the end point. And the 5th does not apply to computers. If you destroy or obstruct the government from seeing what is there, its taken as a sign of guilt. No one gets this level of attention unless their developing encryption or working in a field that threatens their ability to see what they want to see. Or unless your involved in something obviously interesting like those .onion site mentioned by the OP.

And if you get accused of being a terrorist, or whatever... you better hand over the keys because you'll get fried for exorcising your right to private communication. No more habeas corpus my friends. They can hold you indefinitely until you give them what they want.

I think there's plenty software out there still thats probably fine. But it's iffy business and any one running a VPN is a priority target for the kind of bullshit bugging and monitoring their pulling now.

TOR is especially risky right now. Malware copies have been hosted by these agencies that are open as plain text to the right people. So as far as i'm concerned its a toy to circumvent peoples bans. or whatever.

I don't even bother with it. I surf in plain text or bother with https for banking. I post this shit here for everyone to see. Aint worried about it. Their also not interested in finding people who download TV really unless your extremely dumb about it and happen to be a random target/example. And thats handled by agencies much lower anyway who request access to the more interesting information on a case by case basis.

There is surprisingly better information on the plain web anyway. The darknets are full of useless crap. Mostly.

If you want to keep something secret do it in person, or if you are accessing information you should not, use a live CD and a throw away from someone else's access point.

Don't leave trails or information like usernames, passwords, details, that can be traced back to you in your communications. It's pretty straightfoward shit. It would be extremely dumb of me to use "runlvlzero" as an account name on a website that would get me in trouble. Or as a "hackername" if i happend to allegedly deface a health care website. Or whatever.

Ironicly this is mostly useless to the gov... they can see people use tor, and see what places they visit, and sometimes find out what they did there, but most of it is such bullshit that its not worth sending anyone do do anything about it. It's much more useful for blackmail or foreign espionage. You and your crazy fetishes are not interesting to the NSA or whoever they report to. You don't have to worry unlesss your a businessman within the ranks of google or microsoft or your a banker or politician, religious leader, or whatever.

There's plenty of news about reporters who are being hammered by both the US and UK for outing the level of spying being done. People working with Snowden being held for treason etc...

Just rest assured that your private instant msging is not so private =)

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P.S. Snowden was leaking information to criminal syndicates long before he decided to go public with what he did.

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