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Originally Posted by Cecily
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Which I'm totally fine with. If the kill boards were a little more blue this week, I'm sure they'd be fine with it too.
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Which is wrong. People shouldn't be whining because of the way that one weeks worth of raiding goes. Just because IB/FE lost FTE on VS doesn't mean that DA stalling is all of a sudden wrong, anymore than it means that variance and poopsocking is messed up. They've always been issues, and not classic.
If people would stop lobbying for changes simply because it benefits them one week, and instead if the GMs would buy into the fact that certain actions are wrong and not-classic and instead fix them for the server as a whole, I think we would be a lot better off.
What we currently have is the people that created bullshit like Variance and blessed things such as VP-training and DA-stalling openly stating things like this:
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Let's use Trak as an example. The other day fe/ib got a Trak engage with just a few people in the zone. You guys were able to get your raid force in and down trak in about ~2minutes. This took skill, organization, mobilization, and was a good kill. These are the kinds of things we want to encourage here, not planting 50 people at trak spawn and having me turn you all into boats.
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Yes because, that's what camping out characters, FTE tagging and stalling while they log-in from a batphone is. Skill, organization, and mobilization, just like classic EQ.. right?
Wait, no that didn't happen. Sorry.
As long as the people making the rules and calling the shots are under the assumption that all of this non-classic garbage is somehow good for the server/them then it's going to continue.
If the entire playerbase and not just the one guild it benefits given the current week would come out and say: "This stuff is stupid and is not a classic mechanic please fix it" I think they would be a lot more liable to actually listen/care.
The problem is that some people have ADAPTED to these rules and are good at them, so they don't want to change them (a few persons withstanding) until they stop benefiting from them.
Personally, I just want the mechanics to be classic, regardless of whether or not it means the playerbase has to sit at a mobs spawnpoint and wait for a known spawntime and fight it out for FTE.
It shouldn't matter who is benefiting from the current system one week to the next, it should be looked at in a "how did it work during classic EQ" sense.
The truth is that until all parties involved want it to change, and the guides/gms/devs/admins come to their senses and realize that FTE tagging, DA stalling, VP-training, batphoning, and every other single thing that is not-classic is a detriment to the playerbase/server at large, things are going to remain the same.
Glad you're fine with it for now though.
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