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Old 11-04-2013, 10:21 PM
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This is a google earth view of a neighborhood of Kabul, Afghanistan. Every one of those buildings you see is a building surrounded by 8-10 ft. high walls, often with barbed wire. Firearms are ubiquitous as is their use.

Here you can see some of the walls:

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This is a society of people out for themselves. They do not trust each other. They do not respect the rule of law. Every family builds a castle and serves as a garrison, because it is a necessity, because they have an attitude like yours. When they have a disagreement, they spill blood. People are out for themselves to a greater extent than in many western countries.

In the United States, a large part of our stability is based on trust. We do not barricade our homes like castles (for the most part), because we do not seriously believe we share a zero-sum relationship with our neighbors. Those elements exist in our system, but they are more subdued.

You start talking about "Well some people do this bad thing....". What's next? You build a wall around your house and man it with your assault rifle? Tell everyone to fuck off so you can protect your family? How is that working for the Afghanis?

If, in general, we believe it is a good thing to look after our neighbors and our fellow man, help them in their time of need, and trust them, then we cultivate a more peaceful, stable, and prosperous society. Even if that means we suffer some bad individuals wreaking their havoc on a pussified society, I find that preferable.

Everything you do is out of fear of other people and it's disgusting.

TL;DR- you have the mindset of someone who doesnt understand how real life actually functions once shit hits the fan, your ideas are nice but unrealistic at best. When that trust you spoke of crumbles as masses pillage any and everything they can get their hands on you need barriers, defenses are required in situations such as those you noted.

Pease and stability will come eventually everything in life has opposites EVERYTHING, and there is a cycle,things come full circle in most any respect. Sometimes things have to get worse in order for things to get better, its just a fact. I for one am not going to stand by idle or become a victim because i KNOW people are capable of being good and honest.
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