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Old 09-20-2013, 12:48 PM
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First off, thanks for the thoughtful response; sometimes these dialogues become ... less than thoughtful.

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Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Here is the problem with that logic. What "we" want isn't all the same. Do you think TMO wants things to change? I really doubt it. Why would they?
I'd argue "because they are human beings". People may have selfish desires, but they also have a sense of justice. It's inherently human to think that "twice the effort deserves twice the reward", and even the people who are currently benefiting from an unfair system can appreciate the unfairness of it.

I think TMO wants fairness too, and their concerns about "we had to work for this and we don't want others to get stuff without having to work for it" is about fairness also. I think both TMO and the TMO haters are concerned about an unfair system, and ultimately that's what unites us all (or maybe just most; there's a few rotten apples on both sides).

Now, I realize that perfect fairness is a pipe dream, but EQ in general gets pretty close. It's true that someone could camp a mob for 4 hours and get loot while someone who camped it for 8 hours got nothing ... but in general the guy camping for 8 hours is going to get 2x the loot of the 4 hour guy. Same thing for exp grinding: in general if you grind for 8 hours you'll get twice as much exp as if you only grinded (ground?) for 4 hours.

So if EQ is generally fair all the way until the very end, shouldn't we try and get at least close to fair at the end? No freebies for people who don't earn them, and no lockouts for anyone not in the cool kids club, just our best shot at making a system that proportionally rewards everyone ... isn't that something reasonable we can all support?