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Old 09-08-2013, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yeah, I added my own, but it doesn't matter. I entertained an idea that does not matter. I gave you something of equal value back.

I don't see how that is difficult to understand, but I will put it like this. Our opinions on what may or may not have happened does not change anything nor does it add to or take away from what really did happen.

Your what ifs (and mine) don't show anything. People choose to believe what they want for whatever reasons. IB/TR deserved VP and they got it, the only alternative would be to push TMO out of VP and not allow them to raid it for months? This is what you're suggesting, yet you want a "fair" raiding system?
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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This is pretty much spot on.

However, a correction and point of interest, VP was released and it was under a mandatory "rotation" of sorts. IB and TMO rolled off for dragons and Rogean/Nilbog watched the encounters to see how they functioned.

Most people like to think it was staff giving TMO dragons/loot, but actually they just didn't want to deal with IB and TMO's crap for hours on end just to see how their dragons were going to hold up.

Let's be clear here, I'm giving you the reasons people believe this. Most people know VP is a trainable zone just so GMs don't have to answer petitions there, despite when the rule was made this never being admitted to. It is the only really logical reason.

The off-topic what-ifs are simply to illustrate why these reasons occur.

If "IB/TR wouldn't have had VP to their own on a classic timeline" or "it was the way it was and there is no reason anybody should feel slighted over it" are your only 2 lines of reason then we need to stop discussing this topic right now because we are never going to reach common ground or agree.

You seemed confused about why people feel the way they do, I'm simply trying to show you how they do.

Arguing about whether they are right or wrong is just stupid and doesn't change anything.