Originally Posted by Morgander
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But this isn't even how Everquest works.
Everquest's mechanics allow kill stealing, boxing, training, and by definition of the coding, allow for a single group with the highest dps to get every kill on every mob (not the raid-force, but the single group).
We're forced to come up with rules to ensure these base mechanics cannot be manipulated by those players who could and would do whatever it takes to "win".
Had Everquest actually functioned like this (or P1999 for that matter), then there would be no such thing as rules arbitration.
Want to be the "best", as you've described? Allow universal training and kill stealing. Why do we even have an FTE rule then? Why not just let everything be completely free for all, and let the single group with the highest dps get the kill and the loot?
You defend a situation on the basis of your personal desires, and that's the only basis you have to compare logic here. Your logic reasons that, the current rules MOST benefit your own personal agenda, therefore it's the most appropriate ruleset.
Should FTE rules be revoked, should training and kill stealing be universally accepted, then you'll "win" a whole lot less, get frustrated, and demand change.
Now if what you've stated is blatant truth, this shouldn't be the case, but I know it would be.
It's a hypocrisy, and you know it is. I shouldn't have to point this out, it's as bright as day.
You're backing a system that endorses your point of view.
The difference between you and I, is that I'm not even endorsing a system here. The only thing I'm doing is stating that logging out characters to "poop-sock" isn't fun, and that the current raid situation isn't even good competition.
Never did I say that I felt competition is in poor taste. Never did I say that I felt that any one guild or group of guilds should not be able to "be the best". I simply presented two ideas: "'Poop-socking' is boring ---- 'the current raid system doesn't apply good competition factors'".
And besides, if the argument here is really going to be that "the best are the best and should remain the best because they're the best", then the "best" need not worry about superficial rules like FTE and training. Right?
If you can still get all the loot even with kill stealing, training, boxing, and everything else we've got a rule for, then you're even MORE the best.
But that's not really what you want.
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