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Originally Posted by heartbrand
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It's pretty egotistical to think the devs are making a server because of nihilum. They're making a team server because lots of people, including mainly those who never played on red99 and couldn't even name five nihilum members, aren't interested in FFA pvp but they are in teams pvp.
Take a look at the nihilum dkp list on any given day and you'll see 30+ people who have quit the game. They were in the top guild and still quit. Why is that? Stuck in Kunark on a one guild server that is dead and boring, with no hope of truly ever attracting any sizable amount of new blood. The most they can hope to get back with velious and fixes is 60-70 people, 75% of who are probably nihilum members.
I'm not blaming the state of the server on nihilum, the server is where it is because of an awful launch with problems plaguing it since day one. But, there's also a problem I completely underestimated which is that FFA grief pvp does not appeal to what should be our biggest target audience: blue guilds sick of the raid scene on blue99. Teams appeals to them.
To me the whole nihilum thing balances out, for every person who claims they quit because of nihilum there's someone else who probably the only reason they still play is a guild like nihilum, it's a wash to me. The questions needing to be asked are the fundamentals as to why we're in the place we're in to begin with. And to that, beyond the resist fixes and all of that, it comes down to the fact that the ruleset itself doesn't appeal to a large portion of players. With teams, suddenly you're attracting those "bluebs", who are at least theoretically more mature and likely to form a base for a fun server with tons of competition. I just don't see that EVER happening on red99 regardless of what fixes they put in place.
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You make some good points. I would rather see a server like blue that has PVP enabled for the raid zones, like Chardok/KC/Sebilis/PoF/PoH etc, instead of a "teams" server.
But that is me being an individual.