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Originally Posted by Vexenu
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I'm sorry, but this is massively flawed logic.
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actually old pvp's statements aligned with my experience with item loot.
item loot is amazing. it makes the game scary / exciting beyond any other gaming i have ever experienced. it worked great in eq and uo.
it would basically solve the #1 problem bitched about on r99 immediately, which is that there is nothing to do unless you are in nihilium. small organized groups that dont have enough people to contest trakanon, could still get trakanon loots by jacking up xp groups in kc. then nilly would be forced to send the a squad on a manhunt to get their shit back, meanwhile being constantly afraid of losing even more of their hard earned pixels.
interestingly this also fixes the #1 complaint of people IN nihilium which is: why the fuck am i wasting my time raiding dracoliche #472 when i got my bcg in janurary of last year? good news, while thrilla was out pvping people in heresy all day that were guerrilla warfare fucking up our apps and alts, he picked up mrylokar legs but lost his bcg. he needs to go to this raid to replenish his pixels before going out and having awesome, meaningful pvp all day tomorrow.
yes some people roll around on naked wizards. how is that different from here, where half the pvp kills on the server are by wizards? dont want to risk your paladins fbss to a naked wizard? play a naked wizard. want to absolutely buttfuck naked wizards 3v1? play a geared melee. (this is of course assuming someone implements some kind of resist check).
the whole bagging thing is fixed very simply by coding it to loot wearable items in the persons bags as well.
im ok with the idea of limiting the lootable slots to say earrings, rings, neck and helm, + a defined set of clickies like gate pots, cure pots, wands etc. these are basically all resist boost / pvp oriented items that wont ruin your ability to go xp. you dont get ganked into complete nudity, and melees haste items are safe. this + the same items being lootable from bags would provide a decent level of safety from ultimate grief + prevent bagging.
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all that being said, i dont have very high hopes for item loot being implemented since many are against it or not willing to try in the first place.
on xp loss:
xp loss was fine in classic. it became retarded 51+ when the penalty became 70 times worse in terms of time required xping to make back the loss. make it scale so that the xp loss is always equivalent to about 4 solo'd dark blue mobs.
reward the killer with half of that xp, (split among group so healers get some love). this gives an incentive to pvp, an incentive to not go for the intentional xp death, and is a net loss so you cant exploit it to transfer all your xp from one char to another. make some kind of cap so a lvl 1 chain killing a 60 is not a valid way to level a new toon.
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one last thought on the subject, a system i have posted before, but still like:
implement a custom vendor that sells pvp crystals for plat, and another vendor that sells consumable pvp oriented items for crystals [lava diamond, tash/malo wands, targetable grow mushroom, no blind shadow step pot, 4 slot instant junkbuff pot, manasieve wand, spirit of cheetah pelt, lute of highsun, dmf pot, fang of rabies, ...]. you can utilize the unused ldon currency spot in your inventory for this mechanic. make these expensive so it is a legit plat sink.
* the pvp crystals have no weight, and cannot be banked.
* when you kill someone else, you can loot all of their crystals up to how many you have on you.
* one of the crystal bought items can be looted from a slain enemy's corpse. (regardless of how many crystals you have)
this should accomplish a few things:
- higher risk/reward for pvp, while not as soul crushing as item loot
- system is opt in. if you want to be safe, dont buy crystals. unlike running around as a naked caster in item loot, you stand to gain only as much as you put on the table. conversely if youre a big dick box legend with 100k crystals, some scrub with 50 crystals and a gank squad doesnt get to loot everything, but it still doubles their pile.
- gives real value to plat to foster healthy economy
- want a high stakes duel with someone talking shit? instead of calling them out for char deletion which no one has ever gone through with ever, go buy 10k plat worth of crystals and meet at the flagpole after school.
a note on the items - i would either not have, or temper instant gib items like conflag and golem wands, and instant get away items like gate and da idol by making them lore, giving a cast time and making them expensive. obviously all of the fine tuning minutia would be up for debate.