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Originally Posted by Vandy
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Posted this in the GM Rulebook thread as well. These threads fill up with crap so fast all the post where people are actually giving suggestions get totally buried.
I think if they are dead set on keeping the training aspect in that some sort of rules should be added to it.
Such that if you wish to train a guild that is going to attempt a VP run you have to have your VP raid force outside ready to move in. If you have no intent to immediately raid VP then you shouldn't be able to send in people to stall or grief.
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I just think training shouldn't be allowed at all, it wasn't on live. Unfortunately though the guild on top seems to favor a less competitive raiding scene filled with griefers and people who just want to waste time.
Sure, FE and any other guild could band together and join forces against TMO's training-army in VP. But why? Why should folks have to utilize a non-classic raiding mechanic to compete fairly on a server? Why should training be allowed in VP and not in other zones? I mean, the rulebook clarifies Planes of fear/hate/sky as non-CSR as well right? These are questions that a large portion of the playerbase wish were answered and/or addressed.
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Originally Posted by Krissdu64
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nothing's wrong except YOU. Rules are already established, they won't change because you're failing. Make a guild with these 250 people and go in VP, earn your pixels instead of whinning on every threads
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For you to say that its just one player or guild who doesn't like the way things are here is just ignorant. Sure, server population is up right now but its been at this point before in the past. The same thing always seems to happen, a new wave of players starts and levels up, then they quit when they realize what raiding on p99 has become. Its a never ending cycle that's been going on 2+ years now, and until stuff is fixed/changed it will keep happening until velious is released.
To me, the raiding scene would be way more fair and competitive without the presence of training. It's gotten to the point where training outside of VP is rarely enforced. For example there are hundreds of fraps of one specific person continually training VS pit, admitting to it in /say and laughing about it, and going unpunished. How long should any guild be expected to put up with stuff like this without atleast fighting back by breaking rules themselves or simply giving up and leaving the server like IB (the last guild who was on top besides TMO.)
Stop being ignorant and take a look at the bigger picture here.