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Originally Posted by Ezrick
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The funny thing about the "raiding scene" is that there is a "raiding scene". It's not classic. Classically I remember Verant/SOE complaining about the excess time they had to devote to these encounters that would ever only be seen by 1% of the players.
WoW ruined you. Now everyone thinks they are entitled to the big, pink, teddy-bear. Classic EQ NEVER indulged the masses in a "raiding scene". Only the best (yes you will say 'no-job geek-living-in-momma's-basement) players could do it.
Obviously times have changed and EQ live is different, but we're talking 'classic' here.
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I spent many, many hours raiding in classic EQ. I'm not talking after Planes of Power when they added instances for everything either. Our server had at least 3 or 4 guilds that raided regularly, even more after Velious came out. I remember times of there being over 200 people at once in the Temple of Veeshan.
EQ classic had what, maybe 500k subscribers at its peak? I bet if you compare the ratio of players to people who got to see raid content in classic EQ, it's probably even higher than classic WoW was. Even before Kunark I remember at least 3 guilds doing Plane of Hate/Fear and getting Naggy/Vox kills before they brought out Sky. If I remember correctly each of those guilds had at least 50 people. I remember them doing a serverwide message at one point telling people to get their friends to log on because they were almost at a record of people online, was it 50,000 maybe? I'm sure most other servers had just as many people raiding as ours did, that seems like a pretty big raiding scene to me.
Anyway, all I wanted to know from posting this was if TMO were really this huge guild that took every single spawn within minutes and nobody else ever had a chance for anything. It sounds like others are able to get some spawns, but most of the server just isn't willing to put in the effort to challenge them. Sounds like FE is working on it, and I'm sure with Velious there being much more raid content for everyone that will help a lot too.
Thanks for the information everyone.