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Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99
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Lets just consider the legitimate reasons for and against training being allowed in VP.
Legitimate reasons for allowing training: initially the pathing in VP was so bad that quite literally a guild pulling a dragon did not know what to expect in terms of mlb behavior and pathing. This created many scenarios where training happened often and many petitions were filed. The workload on the GMs would be immense, especially when you add in the fact that FTE disputes were common as well.
Those two concerns realistically can't be eliminated completely but surely the addition of fte shouts and improvements made to pathing recently should alleviate these issues for the most part, especially if intentional training was to be enforced.
Legitimate reasons against training in VP: its purely a griefing tactic used to waste players time and prolong competition over mobs until one guild gains an upper hand over the other simply by having more trainers available. This is not true competition.
The next reason would be that training was never allowed on live in any zone.
Its just not classic.
Yet another would be that less douschebaggery between guild (such as training) would lead to a more enjoyable raid scene for all.
Another reason would be that it would force raiding guilds to more strategically prioritize targets, which theoretically, would allow other guilds a higher chance at attempting raid bosses outside of VP.
Feel free to add reasons for or against sanctioned training in VP, as long as they are legitimate.
I chose to leave out poopsocking as a legitimate reason for allowing training because that isn't a legitimate reason to allow training. If a guild is willing to sit on a dragons spawn for an extended period of time then more power to them. I find it amusing that folks are arguing for a non classic rule to be enforced in order to prevent a classic stratedgy that was employed by many guilds on live. Im not saying i support poopsocking or enjoy it, but if guilds wanna do that then that is their choice. Assholes shouldn't be allowed to train them because their guild lacks the heart to do the same. That just amounts to being less competitiveness between guilds as well as the bad blood which is evident on this thread among others.
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Originally Posted by Arteker
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tmo never had vp unconsted 2 years vp , we have to deal with ib vd bda fe trains all over to the point the mentality of train wars sticked deep and hard and alots of people got pissed angry and want to strike back .
as i said do it in game not forums , do it in game because no tmo will take forums serius unless its a gm official ruling.
p99 forums are full of shit on a level i havent seen in 13 eyars of everquest players since furor anger issues over paladins sks back in the day .
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Hey art thanks for your input bud, as for your insistance to 'do it in game and not on the forum" not quite sure what you mean by that. As for official GM ruling, this thread was meant to open up the discussion about the possibility of that happening. Unfortunately I have tried to discuss a treaty in VP or some kind of friendly no training agreement but haven't gotten a respons from zeelot. So.unfortunately it comes down to what the gms think/feel about the topic. If training is decided to be allowed for good well that is unfortunate and will make a lot more players unhappy than outlawing training would make people happy.