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Old 08-10-2013, 01:32 PM
timhutton timhutton is offline
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Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
From a bug thread posted by someone there. NOTICE the very first condition.

5.6.2 Acceptable CSRep Presence in Customer Service Limited Zones

The presence of Customer Service Representatives in Customer Service Limited Zones creates two undesired situations. First, players are more likely to ask for assistance in gameplay issues from the CS staff if a CS Rep is in the zone. Second, players are more likely to blame CS Representatives for any inconvenience they may experience if a CS Rep is in the zone. For these reasons mentioned above CS Reps must not be in Customer Service Limited Zones except under the following conditions:
•They are investigating a possible Exception Incident (Abuse, Disruption, or Exploitation) at the request of a player.
•They are investigating a possible bug at the request of a player for documentation purposes.
•They are removing a corpse from an object such as the ground, a wall, a tree, etc. according to Corpse Recovery Procedure (See 7.3 Corpse Recovery)
•They are unsticking a player stuck on the geometry (in an object, in a wall, etc). The player should be moved the minimum amount of distance necessary to unstick them from the geometry.
•They are summoning a corpse from a verified inaccessible area listed in 5.6.2.1 to a position of the player's choice within the zone.
•They are summoning a player from a verified inaccessible area listed in 5.6.2.1 in the Customer Service Limited Zone to a non-PvP area of Arena and then back to either the zone-in point of the Customer Service Limited Zone or to another player of the player's choice in the Customer Service Limited Zone.
•They are following Policy and Procedures concerning an Under the World Case. (See 7.13)

Thanks so much for doing the research and finding this. I knew I didn't remember training in VP for a reason
Nice, that really ties it all together. Where is that from?

It doesn't really leave us off any better than where we started though. All of this research and fact finding amounts to only one thing: showing that the people that keep trying to claim that VP was a trainable zone because of lack of CSR and that it happened on their server (it was for some reason different on other servers according to them) are just spewing bullshit. We all kind of knew that to begin with, the anecdotal evidence, lack of hard proof, and basic common sense more than make it clear that training was never allowed in VP or anywhere else.

That still doesn't change much because training is, for some reason, sanctioned here and the griefing is allowed to go on despite the majority of players being against it.

So I've got to ask the people that put the rule into place, why are we intentionally allowing this non-classic element to occur on this server? What is the reason? Is it to free up GM time? Is it to "spice" things up? Is it to create a scenario where only one guild gets to raid VP? What is the reason for this clearly non-classic ruling? An answer would be wonderful, even if it amounts to "because I said so". At least then we aren't using the "it was classic" cop-out and everyone knows why.

Let's get back to the title of this thread and get an answer please: Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak?

P.s. Before one of the RnF regulars comes around and says something like "it was all discussed and talked about in the past, go find it" I've already spent hours looking for it and found nothing, so please either spare me or help me out here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...&postcount=226
Last edited by timhutton; 08-10-2013 at 01:34 PM..