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Originally Posted by sanforce
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I was watching Tiggles stream earlier tonight. When TMO went into VP, the ONLY people that were training were FE monks that were trying to delay the inevitable dragon kills. FE wasn't even attempting the mobs, they were just there to grief (2 monks - Xerxes and Huen I believe, and 1 cleric - Goodies). TMO wasn't crying, they laughed and shrugged it off, and then got the kills anyways. I don't see why other guild can't use some coordination and get the same thing accomplished. They must just all be that bad - can't handle the rules so the /cry and try to get the rules changed because their eq skills and organization is sub par. It's also unfortunate when FE griefs in VP because it gets the streams shut down. That being said, I think it is a nice change of pace from the other raid encounters, and I think that FE should be allowed to train in there if they want, even if they never actually attempt a VP mob.
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Well you're bringing up 2 or 3 people playing within the rules given to them, not sure what relevance your post has within this thread. If people want to go spend hours training and it is allowed by the current rules, why would they not? That would be their prerogative.
My thread was meantvto gauge the servers players opinion of the situation and perhaps open the doors to discussion regarding altering the rules.
If you want to bring up FE or specific members of FE please do so on rants and flames.
The issue here is not TMO/IB/FE or their storied pasts on this server, its the rules in the final raid zone available to players here. Training being allowed there just further fosters guilds animosity as well as requiring them to bloat their rosters to immense sizes just to be able to compete.
You wanna zone into vp with your guild? Better have at the very least 10 players ready to train for hours on end just to get a clean pull. Then you wanna engage thay dragon? Better make sure you kill every opposing guild member in zone first. Don't forget all it takes is a ninja rezzed monk or two to train a guild engaged to a mob in vp.
In other words VP under the current system is complete idiocy. You can sit here and bring up FE or IB or TMO, but lets be real, it really isn't up to any of them. Atleast I hope it isn't.
This is about staying true to what p99 (atleast I thought) was meant to be.
Lets try to look past petty differences and do whats right for the server.
The funny thing is I sincerely feel that VP without training would be a lot more fun, and less time would be wasted with idiotic training. I don't understand, training isn't a sign of skill but rather the lack thereof. To me, being able to race to a mob and engage it without training one another would be a much greater indicator of skill.