going to get involed in this conversation because its making me wet.
i went through all my old SS from when Velious was open on VZTZ and although this isnt VZTZ i think in some ways it is the closest reflection to how it will look on an EMU considering all the arguments in this thread, specifically population and knowledge.
at the time of these SS, no one was NToV geared, most were only half geared with Thurgadin armor and many were still sporting kunark gear, not including VP.
not conclusive evidence but i highly doubt that AoW will not be downed on day 1. we did 3 attempts, got him to 92% 90% and then 82%. we didnt expect to win, we just wanted to attempt it with who we had online at the time. Heresy also made an attempt, dont know how that went except that they wiped. i cant remember, but i also think i remember someone saying that he wasnt doing flurries? so he may have been broken which would mean he will be far nastier than these few attempts. anyhow, hope this gets you excited.
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and here is a werewolf fucking a bear
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