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Originally Posted by Turp_SmokinPurp
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Training or PvP.
The people screaming neither are either
1. Noob or
2. just want to see sleeper woken so they can quit , so fuck them.
Make VP/Sleepers PvP if people want to bitch about training.
Fuck training imo its the worse way to kill others BUT it is the only way to protect the sleeper unless. You make these zones PvP an it would be a lot better and a lot more fun.
But neither is the worse way to go, NO train + NO PvP = Sleeper woken and a ton of drama mixed in.
Staff (at the least Sirken) would be down with PvP these zones but the community will not have it and are in to carebear mode, so enjoy the trains or beg for PvP because having neither is idiotic.
You want no training and no PvP Tassle? It will be no warders/drama in Velious if thats what you want. Or you down for PvP
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I just want no training, but if that's the only way to ensure the sleeper isn't awoken I probably wont be playing during velious on p99 anyway. If ST was PVP flagged that may be a more viable/fun/entertaining fix to the situation. However this thread is about Veeshan's peak since velious is still a ways off.
But to say training is going to guarantee the sleeper wont be awoken? That's just stupidity and ignorance. If its already possible to derail trains in VP and take dragons down, as has been proven, then training is not going to be effective enough to prevent the waking of the sleeper anyway. If those who want to wake the sleeper are driven enough they will have 20-30 people waiting to derail any possible trains, and its possible to do so completely and indeffinetly in any zone.
The problem is training itself doesn't belong in EQ raiding. Sure, it happens occasionaly unintentional or intentionally. Its just a way for people to grief others and turn p99 into a bigger timesink than it has to be. Or as some others have stated its a form of meta-pvp or whatever you wanna call it.
We can run around this thread in circles but simply put there is no reason for sanctioned training in any zone on EQ, it wasn't permitted on live and it shouldn't be on emulated servers either. Obviously from looking at the poll numbers a good portion of people feel this way.