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Old 08-05-2013, 01:07 PM
Nirgon Nirgon is offline
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You use this word share when no one has any intention of doing so.

The "fair" thing to do (not fair to TMO who had worked to come up in the strug that you guys didn't have to etc, it should become obvious when you think about it) would be this:

Raid calendar made by Sirken
2 week raid suspension for any guild / group breaking rules on said calendar

Wouldn't even require much more than that.

However, for all the bitching about TMO, you all forget they had to contest with IB in somewhat their prime. IB was a VERY strong EverQuest raid guild by my standards (well they had future knowledge, who is to say if they went in with no knowledge how they'd do compared to a guild like Afterlife or FoH in the day). They put an insane amount of time lawyering on the forums, talking to GMs, dealing with corruption, exploits/bugs that don't exist now, trying to recruit against other guilds, power leveling needed classes, farming items that are easily bought cheaply now and most importantly sleepless nights getting to where they are now.

Is it "fair" to just now hand down a raid calendar after they put in all that effort? Well, probably not. If there had been a calendar to begin with, they wouldn't have had to put in all that misery to get where they are now.

So, there's your "fair" to everyone else, but I am personally of the belief you should have to go through what they did to get your mobs. That's fair. Notice I didn't put quotations around the use in that last sentence.

It's a hard struggle, its not for everyone, but I see this everywhere RL too. People work their asses off to get on top and hold their position, and people cry because they want it too but aren't going to put in the same work for it.

Not my decision but there's the facts.