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Old 08-05-2013, 08:39 AM
Ambrosie Ambrosie is offline
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First of all sorry, my English is not my native language. Will try to keep it clear ;-)

It was around 2001/2002 and the whole story is about raid competition between guilds.

I was in a guild where we were the opposite of a zerg type guild. Our goal was to advance in Velious content with the minimum required people and so our raid force was mainly bellow 20 / 25 players. On the other hand, the concurrent guild was a zerg type of guild (no offence, everyone pick the way it prefers playing) and they never engage a target without being 50+ player in the zone.

The whole story happened in ToV zone and it was an unbelievable night which lead us to guild disband (which made me sad when it happened, but its great memory now).

So, like any raid night, our rangers were running over Velious content in order to check / track mob availability. This night, we found out that making NToV could be a great plan. My leader went to ToV and started to call for camp check. Our concurrent guild was already in ToV and because we had only 15 people of our guild logged at this time, they called WToV then NToV (considering that they will have time to finish WToV and move to NToV and kill Aaryonar).
As a side note: The "gentleman agreement" on my server was that the guild killing Aaryonar win the NToV camp.

My guild leader ordered that we all move to ToV in order to make NToV. He was pretty sure and confident in the fact that we could kill Aaryonar before our concurrent guild may think of it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] He also told the other guild that they should move to NToV now if they don't want to lose the camp arguing that they could not pretend to call both WToV and NToV. They chose to stay in WToV because they didn't think we could gather our raid forces and kill Aaryonar in less than 1.30 / 2 hours.

The fact was that we were ready at ToV entrance in less than 15 min with the minimum required forces (according to my leader) to take NToV!! Problems started at this point with a hell of fu**** /shout and /ooc about camp stealth ;-). Both guilds were pissed at each other and we all had valuable arguments.

First problem was to go to Aaryonar fight spot. There is 2 main solutions: You clean the way to it or you log your mage for CoTH. Both were not the solution for us (no Mage and not enough time to clean before the concurrent guild set up all its players to the fight spot with their CoTH mages). So the plan was to let our main puller aggro everything from first part of NToV and bring the shit of it in EToV. I don't know how it did it (really), but it did and that was an amazing pull / train. Once everything was aggroed, we moved all our raid forces at Aaryonar fighting spot, the monk FD and "voila !” In less than 5 minutes all our raid force was ready to fight (we buffed the whole raid before moving in). 20 min laters we claimed the death of Aaryonar which according to gentleman agreement allowed us to have the full of NToV camp.

The concurrent guild was quite upset about it as this was breaking their night plan. So they decided to move to NToV and put all their players at entrance of NToV cave (the zone just after the aaryonar corridor). They were at the spot just waiting us wipping... This led us to be a bit nervous as we were still learning stuff in NToV.

The mess happened during our first named pull. The named was around 20% and we got trained by one of their monk... We tried to log cleric / save our ass... but the whole raid force wiped without any backup plan. I pass on the 2 hours crying / drama we have in NToV /ooc and /shout channel (both leader making petition ... etc). At some point, we called it a day and let NToV to them.
But one of our members told in GU "Guys, what I will do tonight is my own shit. I am quitting the guild because I don't want to put shame on all of us".

The guy quitted the guild and went back to NToV by itself and activated the "trigger" that starts the last event of NToV. During more than 4 hours he did everything he could to screw the other guild and make sure they could not kill any named.

Well, let's say that the diplomacy was nonexistent and it pissed everyone in our guild. Members were so pissed, that the drama hit our personal organization and leadership. A part of the member base was not proud of this night and it led us to mass guild disband.

On a very personal part, I did a fucking miss tell during this night! At the very beginning of the night, while we were moving to ToV, I send a tell to my guildleader saying that its call to NToV is great and that we should not worry about the other guild. I told something like this "/tell OppositeGuildLeader is a morron. he does not want to raid something without being 60+ players in the zone. He has no ball". Well you got it, the tell went directly to concurrent guild Leader instead of my own guild leader.
I don't know how much my misstell did have an impact on the whole story, but I am pretty sure that it did not help. And if he reads this story today: Sorry bud, I was young and stupid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]