evidence vs hearsay and circumstantial (whether they witnessed it first hand or 2nd hand) evidence.
Evidence: written testimony or physical objects
Hearsay: Gathering Info. of what person A, B, and C did (usually dealing with 2nd hand witnesses), not permissable in court (because it's not good evidence and mostly what we use here.
Circumstantial: Indirectly prooves a fact. Bystandard saw something happen (usually dealing with 2nd hand witnesses)
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1:he did this this and this
2:you're a fool let me embarrass you.
1:you're libel'ing me!
3: rabble rabble rabble
4:rabble rabble rabble
5: rabble rabble
10 pg's later
1:he obviously exploited.
2:where's the evidence?
gm: well i'll check it out
1: why do you need to check it out, we have 10 pg's of evidence. he's a witch
5pg's later
2:I just looked at the rules and.
1: and?
2: well you obviously cheated and these GM's won't do anything about it, except babysit us.
1: look I didn't cheat, is there a rule about this?
2: I dunno, but if there was you'd be guilty, I'm sure of that fact.
1: I'm free
2: libel him
aftermath of rant and raves thread:
1 *feels bad man*
2 *I did my job for the day*
3 *rabble?*
gm *these players are idiots, is there something we can do?
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so does this show that you can't prove someone guilty on the forums, because it's near impossible to gather the correct evidence?
so, we are wasting everyone's time with these peer trials in rants and raves?
Infact, it appears, these trials will usually create confusion and untruth's more than justice, because no one is officially breaking the rules, or am i wrong?
what is evidence on an mmo server? I mean, it would take longer than a real trial to make sense of all this crap, sense there is only alittle evidence (if any) alot of circumstantial evidence, and intuition is needed.
can we ever trust the 2 biggest guilds with any kind of evidence they bring forward against the other?
what can the gm's do to make these 2 guilds stfu, other than forced rotations and treating them like babies until people start to mature?
anyways, GM's handle rules (sometimes evidence too)
players do not handle evidence and justice, but may bring up suspect circumstantial issues and quote rules and stfu unless they want to slow this process up.
lol, internet games have no evidence that can't be tampered with or taken out of context.
is that right?
Edit: also it is not exactly libel on the internet forums, because the forums are transitory in nature (not persistent, brief in duration), which would actually make it more like slander. Libel is infact written, but more like on paper. This is an internet forum so, it's got alot more slander in it's blood and libel.
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