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Originally Posted by Mesenkomaha
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I'll tell you what I think happened, although it doesn't matter what any of us think. I think Z saw M and followed him. He then asked what M was up to. M either mouthed off or didn't respond. Z grabbed him to try to turn him around and M attacked him. M was probably really kicking his ass. Z panicked, pulled his gun and shot. Self defense? Judging by this story yes, but he probably did initiate it.
Why did he pursue? Because M was a young black kid in a neighborhood that had recent break-ins.
Z was wrong and foolish to pursue and he is paying by having his life destroyed. At the same time M was wrong to run away/fight when Z asked him what he was up to during the pursuit. I seriously believe, and wish, that M would have said something like "I'm going to my dad's house, want to walk with me?" so this whole thing would never have happened. I am just so sick of hearing about it and being called a racist for agreeing with the jury.
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if the above happened, fuck zimmerman and he deserved to be convicted of a crime -- possibly even the third degree murder via child abuse that they tried to lay on him.
zimmerman had ZERO right to put his hands on martin or attempt to detain him. if he did, he committed a crime and martin was well within his rights to fight back.
but there's no reliable evidence that that's what happened. the only account we have says that trayvon initiated the physical contact and violence.
you seem to think it's ok if zimmerman grabbed his arm. it's not. if trayvon turned and walked away, he did exactly the right thing