[Vianna]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't want to derail this thread, but people did the numbers years ago (many more times than once) and apart from things they bring to the table that can't be easily quantified, just pure DPS increase from having a Bard in your group is almost on a par with a Rogue. That doesn't take into account the utility they bring which has the result of speeding up XP generally, and making a group more solid, and flexible.

Mind you, this wasn't in classic which doesn't have the stacking line of Bard overhaste songs, and I think took into account the Bard epic. Even so, a well played Bard holds their own in a group - so much so SOE started nerfing them later on. It's a busy class to play well though, I'm not gonna lie.

P.S. I can't really comment on the "half-assed" statement because apart from missing the point I think because it all stacks anyway, I do fine as main CC, mana battery, and regen-er, along with haster and slow/snarer when there's no Shaman (and even when there is to cover resists), so don't know what else to say.

Bards are awesome in groups....Stacking mana songs=Less down time=More Pulls..On top of just that good bards can lock down 3 to 4 adds with mez(sometimes more) in emergencies. That isn't getting into the other songs they have at their disposal that helps groups in a big way. I imagine he had experience with quite a few bad bards.