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Aeolwind 11-12-2009 01:07 AM

Something brought to my attention & clarification
 
Something has been brought to my attention. Some folks that, well, have no idea about how the upper end game was played in EQ have made some comments that I want to clear up. I have flash cards, and a hand puppet to help with the break down. My apologies to IB in advance; but I need to curtail the "OMG Cheaters" BS that is being floated.

This is a raid mob
(>'.')> -Rawr!

This is a player
i - Aiee!

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                        }iiiiiii
________________________}iiiiii
                (>'.')> i
            iiiiiiiii
________________________

Now, when (>'.')> uses its "Woosh" attack that hits everyone, the people hiding behind that wall are not doing something wrong. What moron would stand in (>'.')>'s "Woosh" when you could hide from it? AE's were timable to allow folks to be able to "joust" the AE.

Mobs have a defense against this, it's called summon. Later, mobs were just rooted to stop the tactic (High priest, Creator, IV, Shei. This tactic was used by everyone under the sun. We used it on, every mob but Hoshkar and Silverwing in VP, Dozekar, Aaryonar, Vulak, all the Warders in ST, IV before they rooted him, Cursed cycle, tower mobs in pop the list goes on. The tactic is no different than standing beyond AE range and using missile weapons to burn the mob down. Which is how Ventani & Fennin Ro were designed to be defeated. Vox was designed against this as was Cazic Thule. Vox would warp all over hell and half of Georgia to catch you, and there were no walls in fear that would block the AE.

Side note: There is one more opportunity for retrieving a title. Whomever manages to kill CT or Inno will get one as well. There is also a title available for taking down Mayong atm, but he will be leaving soon.

Reiker 11-12-2009 01:21 AM

Blocking AEs is very different on emu than live.

On live, AEs could only be blocked in indoor zones. In outdoor zones, AEs go through all ways, you have to range or eat it.

On emu, AEs can be blocked in any zone. Stuff like Dracoliche AE isn't a huge deal, but still, you couldn't block it on live and you can here. Nothing to do about it, either.

Harazzer 11-12-2009 02:19 AM

Ok then what about this:
 
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9719/victoryj.jpg

Bubbles 11-12-2009 02:25 AM

no way imps get that many hps without shaman buffs, too. You're missing a person in the diagram.

Aeolwind 11-12-2009 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reiker (Post 3684)
Blocking AEs is very different on emu than live.

On live, AEs could only be blocked in indoor zones. In outdoor zones, AEs go through all ways, you have to range or eat it.

On emu, AEs can be blocked in any zone. Stuff like Dracoliche AE isn't a huge deal, but still, you couldn't block it on live and you can here. Nothing to do about it, either.

There is a way around this that I've discovered. Thanks for reminding me.

Aeolwind 11-12-2009 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harazzer (Post 3689)

And this would be an exploit. As the ability for players to attack through walls has been removed this would be an exploit of game mechanics of NPC's and thus a bannable offense.

karsten 11-12-2009 03:55 AM

harazzer why you gotta be so angry all the time brew?

Skeletonya 11-12-2009 08:31 AM

http://i34.tinypic.com/2s7jtc0.jpg

Jify 11-12-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeletonya (Post 3720)

+1

Blink 11-12-2009 09:58 AM

Over 9000 is a 4chan meme and that, like all 4chan memes, it got stale at most one week after its creation because it's been repeated abusively, if not because it wasn't funny from the beginning. Usage will only make you look like a weeaboo.


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