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xblade724 12-02-2011 05:49 PM

Why not on this server? LD status/white con range
 
1) When linkdead, it should NOT show your LD status ..

The zek's didn't show status either (they patched that in really fast -- when the server first opened and the first gen crowd started hunting in oasis (13-16), that's when it got patched in.

This just destroys this server when you get a guy just innocently blacksmithing with some $$ on you (in a city because guards don't assist..!!), then suddenly you go LD and someone notices and kills without any chance. No skill involved -- just free money for them, and loss of money+exp loss for the LD. Unfair and not fun. Hell even the pker must feel guilty.

2) If in pvp range, everyone should be white con! If over range, red con, under range, green con.

Because level ranges make such a massive impact on your ability to fight each other, pvpers should be assumed some risk that they could be a little higher or a little lower. It's also fun -- if you're a smart pker, you'll have to observe your opponent to guess if he's higher or lower than you. Requires a little true consideration ;)

Anyways, this one, #2, is VERY important and worked wonders on the zeks. This also prevents trolls roaming around only looking for blue cons which is going to be a 100% win and an exp death for a poor sap that had no chance in hell. If this guy 8 lvls under was max 8 lvls under, but conned white, the pker may be hesitant which will cause him to observe his opponent first if smart -- or can rush in recklessly and risk it.

It's very very worth while.

ChubbyBubbles 12-02-2011 05:58 PM

What would be the reason to NOT show LD status? If you are going LD that often perhaps sifting through the tech discussion for some solutions might be a great option.

They already had the discussion on con/ pvp range stuff quite a while ago. No real reason to bring this stuff up.

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Truth 12-02-2011 06:01 PM

LD really shouldn't show although at least half of you fight better this way

white cons not classic

xblade724 12-02-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Truth (Post 481363)
LD really shouldn't show although at least half of you fight better this way

white cons not classic

"White cons not classic" LOL can you really say that as we have pvp deaths obviously far from classic? Don't say scrubby things.

White cons were patched in only months after server release. Pretty sure it was the same patch when they covered LD status.

And it's only that *one* time when you go LD unexpectedly when you just so happen to get destroyed with coin. Why would you show LD? I live in hawaii and this apartment complex shares too much electricity -- my power goes out once every few days causing me LD.

Player vs LD = no skill, free money for nothing, griefing worse than the play nice policy imo, and exp for the guy LD that is defenseless. It's like putting mike tyson vs a 2yr old girl (for instance, the girl being the poster above that said not classic when this server is far from classic)

What is the reason *to* keep LD? Hell even if you zone and you go LD, you still pop to the other side, just don't show the status, no biggie. Give the pkers a chance to figure out theyre ld. If they are not and they are outmatched, they'll have a fun surprise.

Is this how you get most of your kills, sir? Blue con systems and LD?

Doodle 12-02-2011 06:41 PM

That be the fun of the survur!

Ye must watch yur back or Longshanks will take yur money while he stuffs your wife in ye own bed.

Mabash 12-02-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xblade724 (Post 481380)
Player vs LD = no skill, free money for nothing, griefing worse than the play nice policy imo, and exp for the guy LD that is defenseless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xblade724 (Post 481380)


john_savage1982 12-03-2011 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by xblade724 (Post 481350)
1) When linkdead, it should NOT show your LD status ..

The zek's didn't show status either (they patched that in really fast -- when the server first opened and the first gen crowd started hunting in oasis (13-16), that's when it got patched in.

This just destroys this server when you get a guy just innocently blacksmithing with some $$ on you (in a city because guards don't assist..!!), then suddenly you go LD and someone notices and kills without any chance. No skill involved -- just free money for them, and loss of money+exp loss for the LD. Unfair and not fun. Hell even the pker must feel guilty.

2) If in pvp range, everyone should be white con! If over range, red con, under range, green con.

Because level ranges make such a massive impact on your ability to fight each other, pvpers should be assumed some risk that they could be a little higher or a little lower. It's also fun -- if you're a smart pker, you'll have to observe your opponent to guess if he's higher or lower than you. Requires a little true consideration ;)

Anyways, this one, #2, is VERY important and worked wonders on the zeks. This also prevents trolls roaming around only looking for blue cons which is going to be a 100% win and an exp death for a poor sap that had no chance in hell. If this guy 8 lvls under was max 8 lvls under, but conned white, the pker may be hesitant which will cause him to observe his opponent first if smart -- or can rush in recklessly and risk it.

It's very very worth while.

Agreed.

No LD message = not a trivial target because, in many cases, uncontrollable circumstances (loss of power, internet goes out, girlfriend turns your computer off cause you play too much P1999, etc)

I agree with the red, white, green con system. The more uncertainty about your opponent the more interesting the battle. The more risk and uncertainty the higher the stakes of choosing to initiate PvP = fun.

Taluvill 12-03-2011 07:18 AM

I think that if you had a green, white, red con system you would ultimately prevent level 29's killing level 23's because they can, a full two spell levels higher than the person below them. Just an example, but, a possible/probable side effect.

That being said, I am for the system. Straight greifers will have to think twice, and PvP will be more fun overall with the new uncertainty that this system adds.

Sarkhan 12-03-2011 08:52 PM

I completely agree with the white cons system. Having white cons always makes things more interesting by adding the challenge of not knowing a players lvl range until after the battle begins.

LD status I am a little unsure about, I kind of like it since 90% of the time it is from players plugging and not from a legit LD. . . Although for that 10% it must suck

xblade724 12-04-2011 07:04 AM

bump


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