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Wakanda 11-21-2025 08:58 AM

Do you think FD pulling would have been a thing?
 
If Enchanters had been a meta / mainstream class? I kind of don’t. I know everyone on here likes to larp that we all knew charm was OP and Enchanters were always the meta, but that wasn’t a thing from my perspective. FD pulling was a huge thing because of the fact that we didn’t have reliable on-demand CC.

Was noticing in MnM monks really aren’t great pullers because FD isn’t required now that multiple classes have mez or the equivalent, but then I started thinking about the fact that I leveled a necro to 60 on P99 without ever having a need for FD and started wondering how it even works compared to the monk ability.

But then I had a flashback to actually leveling a shadow knight in 2001 and wondered why I didn’t use the spell version of FD back then and then I remembered the game had already evolved to the point where most groups had an Enchanter and the goal was actually to pull as many mobs as possible. Still no charm non sense of course 😹

But yeah I really dunno if monk pulling / FD would have become a meta or mainstream thing if enchanters had been integral to gameplay since day 1. And yes I know monk FD can split fire giants and other tough pulls in PoH. But I think outside of those niche functions, Monks prob wouldn’t have been associated exclusively with FD pulling and that it mainly became a thing due to the fact we had no mez :eek:

Namsaknoi 11-21-2025 10:15 AM

Spell resists work very differently on P99 compared to live.
Players can land spells much easier on NPCs
NPCs can land spells much easier on players
Resist is less effective, on live, you would be pretty much immune at 200, here spells can still land on you with 400
Charm, mez, root resisted a lot upon casting, and often broke within first 10 ticks (1 min) even when landed
On live, at least up to Velious, monk, SK, bard, warrior, ranger often pulled from what I remember, and sometimes duo effort

sammoHung 11-21-2025 01:26 PM

Yes, because of ToV and other zones where Enc cannot pacify / mez, etc.

Although - there are other tactics like dirty/clean tagging with TL's to bind for the dirty tag. But that would require having your pullers bound outside of ToV - which unless you were a caster, probably wasn't a thing in raid guilds in 2001.


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