We need to make some sort of fun challenge guild
 

the normal game is stale, we need to make a new guild-found guild with some sort of silly challenge like gnomes only or raiding dungeons that you're criminally underlevelled for

Post ideas here. Let's make it happen, or not, because people are lame.

Permadeath
Single Race
Self Found only


Those are ones that have been tried, dunno if they're still around. Either rehash one of them or come up with something new. A pvp version of something would be cool, but that requires the people be cool and we all know that wouldn't happen

yeah there's been <SSFHC> which is still around but very small
Legacy of Ik is gone
<Auld Lang Syne> is gone

a melee-only challenge guild might be fun

no spellcasters allowed, guild-found ruleset (can't group or trade outside of the guild), only warriors, rogues, and monks

<Die In Game Die IRL>

a guild locked at level 40 using only items obtained by the guild trying to do 6 necks sounds like it would be funny

I want to do a level 40 locked guild now
it would turn a lot of dungeons and specific mobs into essentially raids

it makes sense too, level 39 is when shamans get their 70% slow, clerics get their CH, it's a charm spell level for enchanters, etc.

Just the lemming rush through Sirens Grotto would be hilarious

so I did some number crunching and an ogre warrior locked at level 40 using only items obtainable by a group of level 40s can reach like 3000 hp with all the right buffs, and a cleric can reach like 1900 mana with +mana and +wis buffs with all the crap gear they'll be able to get.

After the swarm of level 40s has done some "raiding" then a warrior could get like 3375hp, and you could probably get more than that depending on just how many nerds want to participate in the challenge guild.

and a cleric after some "raiding" will probably be like 1 CH more worth of mana or something.

so technically you could do vindi with only level 40s if you had enough clerics (probably an insane amount of them though)

just self found is the way - ALS style maybe with some exceptions to make QoL a bit better

problem is there arent enough people interested to make it work...need a group to go into places and clear stuff at XP level with the focus on getting drops for folks

static group of folks that all decide on playtimes with the same goals is the way - like a SSF trio of lizards (necro, shaman, SK/monk) or an enc + cleric duo

there is a lot of uncontested content that would pose a great challenge and a lot of fun for a new age ALS style group trying to gear up