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WokeCat 01-09-2023 04:49 PM

Wisdom/Int/+Mana gear isn't super useful if you aren't full mana.
 
One of my friends just started playing P99 again after being away for over 20 years and he keeps telling me that the game is too hard because he has to meditate after every pull due to low wisdom.

In my experience, even with high wisdom, I have to meditate after every pull and I recover mana at the same rate as someone with low wisdom. Since most people don't regularly meditate to full mana, I don't think that the person with lower wisdom is going to be dramatically less efficient at killing mobs than the person with higher wisdom.

I've also played a Gnome Cleric alongside a High Elf Cleric who had dramatically more mana than me, and we were both constantly OOM and recovering mana at the same rate, and it quickly became apparent that we had roughly the same casting/healing prowess in a grouping situation where neither of us would ever be afforded the opportunity to meditate for longer than 5 minutes.

I also stole my Iksar Necromancer's gear to give to another character I play and then proceeded to log back onto the Iksar Necromancer and farm the same camp I've always farmed while completely naked and I really couldn't tell much of a difference at all.

Additionally, in some situations where I'm solo'ing and I'm never going to be able to meditate passed 50% mana, I've found that having higher armor gear is more useful than having wisdom gear that doesn't really do anything outside of situations where you are full mana.

Not attacking anyone, nor am I saying wisdom gear is useless. There are plenty of situations where having more mana would have made solo'ing easier (going OOM killing 2 treants and not being able to recover enough mana to keep up with respawns was frustrating since I saw better geared Shamans be able to kill them 2-3 times before going OOM).

But I don't think having high wisdom is super critical to leveling a new character. Especially since most Wisdom characters can heal, and the majority of the melees on P99 are super geared, so they generally require very little healing and it feels like they just invite most healers as a safety precaution rather than an actual requirement.

Again, I'm not attacking anyone, and I'm sure a lot of people do disagree with me, but it's frustrating how many people don't seem to realize that having a lot of Wisdom, Intelligence, or +Mana gear isn't going to dramatically impact their ability to play this game. I feel like melees could make a much stronger argument for why being under-geared is negatively impacting their ability to the play the game.

In closing, I want to state that Gnome is still the best race for Cleric despite having less Wisdom than Trolls.

Ripqozko 01-09-2023 04:54 PM

Are you posting more because someone made a thread slandering you? if so, you can stop. Hope that helped.

Lune 01-09-2023 04:55 PM

Ancient wisdom few P99ers seem to grasp even now, far in the future.

Lune 01-09-2023 04:59 PM

However there are some situations where that higher max mana is useful; any time you are spiking from 100 to nothing or little, such as quadding, raiding, or challenging group content in which, yes, you are regenerating mana at the same rate as anyone else, but you have a much larger reserve for when shit hits the fan. Also for the many people who solo afk, burn their mana bar killings mobs, then med while they watch their show or jerk off or whatever.

That said, for some classes, HP provides greater benefit than the benefits of that mana reserve, and in more situations that count.

Encroaching Death 01-09-2023 04:59 PM

Gear doesn't scale as well for Casters like it does for Melee classes.

But even then, it doesn't help Melee classes much either.

I was complaining earlier about purchasing my Monk a Fungi Tunic, Seahorse Haste Belt, and very good/top tier weapons and I could barely even notice a difference.

I basically wasted my time grinding out that plat because I bought into the hype.

magnetaress 01-09-2023 05:07 PM

Charisma>agility >dex

Basically those are the only truly important stats.

And MR )

Encroaching Death 01-09-2023 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnetaress (Post 3554519)
Charisma>agility >dex

Basically those are the only truly important stats.

And MR )

255 Charisma + Max Begging Skill = best way to make money in the game

WokeCat 01-09-2023 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3554506)
Are you posting more because someone made a thread slandering you? if so, you can stop. Hope that helped.

Nah, I'm actually pacing myself. I was posting more before that happened. I already have threads planned that I want to make, but I'll purposefully wait a couple of days.

One thing interesting I've recently realized as a Troll Shaman is that everyone talks about how bad Iksar Shamans are because they don't have access to the JBB, but I think another thing people completely over-look is the fact that Iksar Shamans don't commonly have access to an OT Hammer either. (I say commonly because I've heard there are tricks with Puppet strings, but I don't consider this realistic as I have many friends who spend days farming the braids despite being relatively well-funded players).

But as someone who just got their OT hammer for the first time, it's already been a major game-changer for me, and makes me realize I may never want to play another character who doesn't have moderately easy access to the item. I may just make that thread on Reddit though since I've already spoiler alerted the thesis just now.

Lampolo 01-09-2023 05:48 PM

All this logic is going to get someone upset. You can't be having unverified opinions either. Where's your data and studies? Are you a computer scientist? Mr know-it-all

Encroaching Death 01-09-2023 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WokeCat (Post 3554531)
But as someone who just got their OT hammer for the first time, it's already been a major game-changer for me, and makes me realize I may never want to play another character who doesn't have moderately easy access to the item.

May I introduce you to our lord and savior, Necromancer?


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