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Snaggles 01-12-2019 12:14 AM

Can you camp an entire zone? I said you can't, someone said he could
 
Tonight someone accused me of "stealing his camp" since I killed the first 5 guards in Grobb, they were just up sitting around.

I said he wasn't there when I arrived and assumed he had the ones near the bank. He said "I'm camping the entire zone and have them on a timer." I tried to explain that an entire zone isn't a camp but his feeling was if he was keepin up on spawns (which he wasn't ,but whatever) he could claim it.

I /tell'd him a type-out of the P99 Play Nice Policy and pointed him to # 8:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=132299

8. You may not disrupt the normal playability of a zone or area.

Zone/Area Disruption is defined as any activity designed to harm or inconvenience a number of groups rather than a specific player or group of players. This includes, but is not limited to::

-Monopolizing most or all of the kills in an area.


I ended up just leaving and playing another toon. Figured I'd ask for some feedback though in the event I just don't get it. That and I might point him here if we have another discussion on what is and is not a "camp".

I'm too damn old at this point to fight with people in video games. That said, EQ is all about righteous indignation and being "right" even if it means brooding about it later :).

What say you?

Mead 01-12-2019 12:21 AM

if you cannot reason with someone then /ignore

pretty simple

also if he wasn't holding down the mobs then obviously he either didn't have the ability to hold down all the mobs or was afk. either way it's the same result

Swish2 01-12-2019 12:33 AM

Crushbone/Blackburrow is included in this among other zones that some people try to take advantage of. If you encounter any high levels rounding up orcs/gnolls and mass killing them its zone disruption... get a petition in <3

Hakubi 01-12-2019 12:34 AM

Grobb/Oggok guards is contested and stressful with people waving their lawyer questing junk around. A good player can kill every guard except the high HP undercon ones or ones near bankers that are avoided. It's bad manners to come into a zone and start killing without asking for a camp check, try to communicate with him next time. Never know if he just inherited the camp and didn't have the timers or what.

Swish2 01-12-2019 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakubi (Post 2840349)
Grobb/Oggok guards is contested and stressful with people waving their lawyer questing junk around. A good player can kill every guard except the high HP undercon ones or ones near bankers that are avoided. It's bad manners to come into a zone and start killing without asking for a camp check, try to communicate with him next time. Never know if he just inherited the camp and didn't have the timers or what.

Or the person in there could share them like a decent human being.

Wonkie 01-12-2019 12:43 AM

uh the rule you quoted is about bards swarming

maybe join a group and play the good part of the game?

area 01-12-2019 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swish2 (Post 2840348)
Crushbone/Blackburrow is included in this among other zones that some people try to take advantage of. If you encounter any high levels rounding up orcs/gnolls and mass killing them its zone disruption... get a petition in <3

You mean after talking to them asking them to leave some up, then them refusing. Right?

Snaggles 01-12-2019 01:03 AM

Thanks. yea it's more the annoyance of the person just picking the ones he wants and saying "the zone is camped" without listing the ones that are open. .

When I camp the bank area in Grobb with my chanter (41) I'm killing every guard. When I did this with my ranger or pally I'd be a bit more specific as to what's open and what isn't. He was leaving a ton up.

Again, not going to lose sleep over it. Just figured I'd ask to make sure I understood. I hate being the asshole, self improvement is good, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonkie (Post 2840352)
uh the rule you quoted is about bards swarming

maybe join a group and play the good part of the game?


Thanks for the clarification. Yea not always enough time and energy to group after a long week of work. If I always needed a mic in my ear I'd be playing Call of Duty or something.

elwing 01-12-2019 01:34 AM

You have the right to ask them to free a camp if people have multiple camps, at their choice... If they don't, you have the right to report them as OP rules mentioned... Now they have the right to camp a whole zone, until someone ask to concede some...

Snaggles 01-12-2019 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwing (Post 2840370)
You have the right to ask them to free a camp if people have multiple camps, at their choice... If they don't, you have the right to report them as OP rules mentioned... Now they have the right to camp a whole zone, until someone ask to concede some...

Thanks. What I always assumed and went that path. Asked if he wanted the bank and he said he had it all. Well, after accusing me of camp theft :).

I didn’t do a CC check since only 2 were in the zone and 5 guards were up (for at least 10 mins). I did a quick invis run and didn’t see the player around and they were anon. Could have been an AFK lowbie.

As an aside it’s all very clear now. Thanks for the input to all. I’ve read the policy multiple times and will be more diplomatic and educated in the future.


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